April 13, 2025

EP 42: Turning Masters Motivation into Better Golf in 2025! "How Bad Do You Want It?"

EP 42: Turning Masters Motivation into Better Golf in 2025!
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In this episode of The Golf Intervention, we ride the wave of Masters-induced motivation and ask the big question: How bad do you really want it?

The Masters always sparks that itch to get better, but what separates the golfers who actually improve from those who just ride the high for a few days? We dig into the keys to making real progress this year—turning that spark of motivation into long-term discipline, learning how to allocate your time, energy, and money in smart ways, and filtering out the noise from social media that derails so many players.

If you’re serious about getting better this season, this one’s for you.

Topics Covered:

🔥 Can you turn short-term motivation into lasting discipline?
 🧠 The mindset shift needed to stop chasing and start improving
 📊 How to invest your time, energy, and money to actually get results
 🚫 Ignoring the endless stream of bad advice on social media
 ⛳ What it really takes to build a better game this year


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You know, Rob fails today.

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The masters started, I taught all day'cause people are excited about golf.

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It's that time of year.

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The grass is green in Central Virginia.

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We're back on recording the Golf Intervention podcast after a slight hiatus of busy life.

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But we're back and we're full throttle ahead because it is now golf season in Central Virginia and we are excited about your golf improvement.

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So today on the Golf Intervention Podcast, we're gonna cover a few topics.

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A little catch up with Rob and I see what we're up to.

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I know a lot of you are curious about how Rob's Fantasy Dynasty League draft one a couple weeks ago.

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So we'll get an update on that later for sure.

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That we will definitely get a little update on that later

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Yep.

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and, but what we're gonna cover today is this question that I want you to ask yourself.

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So this is gonna be an interactive episode.

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I am going to, Rob and I are gonna challenge you today to just.

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Look introspectively a little bit and think about this question.

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How bad do you want it?

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How bad do you want it?

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And by it I mean golf super stardom for yourself, whatever that means.

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Goal, accomplishment, satisfaction, plan better.

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How bad do you want it?

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And what are you willing to do or not do to get yourself to play better Golf today on the Golf Intervention Podcast.

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Welcome in co-host Rob Fields.

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Welcome.

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life been in Charlottesville, Virginia these days?

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Been busy.

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it is been busy.

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It's, we've, we've had some spells of, uh, summer and some spells of winter in the last couple weeks, so it's been a little bit, uh, a little bit of a shock to the system here and there.

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But, uh, but no, we're having a good time.

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And like you said, golfers are fired up.

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Central Virginia Springs can be a little bit of like experiencing a bunch of seasons all in one day.

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It, it can be up and down and, but it's been, it was a very cold winter here, but about a month ago.

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It's sort of like the sun came out.

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But yeah, it's a little bit cold this week.

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The grass is green a little earlier this year than, than normal.

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That Bermuda grass coming outta dormancy and people are excited and, and I've been exceptionally busy with lessons, which is great.

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And one thing that I've been communicating, yeah, well, yeah, true.

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But, um, what's been getting me excited, because I feel like, you know, I've been doing this a long, a long time.

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I'm a lot older than you and I've been at this a long time, but every hour or half hour is a new, it's like a new experience that you're in, right?

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You're on this journey with a lot of people.

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I mean, I literally teach hundreds of people golf every year.

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Hundreds.

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So.

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Every time they come in the, uh, in the room, it's a new experience.

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And you know, we've talked about on the pat on the show and the before, I love teaching in the off season because I think of the off season people are very focused on what do I need to do?

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Not just to, because I've been playing bad the last couple weeks.

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I came to see you for a lesson, but what do I need to do to improve for next season?

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So they're not really worried about their scores in the winter that much.

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They're not playing that much and they just want to improve.

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And we have great f facilit.

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You have great facilities.

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I have great facilities for winter instruction.

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Yeah.

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We're both

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And so very fortunate we've added TrackMan Range at the Country Club of Virginia too.

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So you wanna talk about being spoiled?

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I mean, TrackMan Range is so cool.

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Um, but we're just getting going.

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I'm excited to see what we can do with our students, um, with TrackMan Range, but.

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The fun thing is in the winter we're really focused on long-term develop.

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It feels like we're more focused on long-term development, whereas in the season, it's kinda like, Hey, uh, I played a couple times last week and I couldn't hit my driver.

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Right?

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So those lessons end up being a little more short-term fix me type lessons, which are fine too.

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Well, I like it all, but it's really fun to sit down with somebody and talk about the process.

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The process.

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Like how do I improve at this game?

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What are we currently working on?

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Are we working on your swing?

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Are we working on your skills?

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Are we working on scoring better?

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You know, what are we working on?

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And.

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It's been really good.

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I mean, I've, I've had some students tell me things recently, like record breaking scores, which is so cool to hear.

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'cause measuring success in golf is pretty easy.

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I shot a better score.

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It gets pretty straightforward.

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Right?

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I always wondered when my kids played soccer, like how do they know who the good players are when no one ever score?

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It's like one, nothing like, huh.

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Yeah.

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How do you know who's good?

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Right.

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But who's the best offensive lineman?

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It's hard to tell, but in golf it's like, it's you in the golf course and you shoot scores and we track it and we have metrics and all this stuff.

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But I had one that I was sharing with you a little bit, um, who's, this guy's played golf his whole life.

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He's in his seventies and truth be told, for probably 10 years, he's been coming to see me for more of those fix me lessons a few times a year.

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Like, Hey, I can't hit my driver slicing.

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Okay.

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I asked him the other day after he, he signed up for six lessons and he said, I want to get better this winter.

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I wanna train, I wanna get better, I wanna do whatever I need to take equipment, working out, swing, skill, whatever.

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And after the fifth lesson, he was hitting it so much better.

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I mean, it was, it was 40 yards longer with his driver, 40 yards longer with his driver.

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We got him a hybrid that he could hit, approach shots with better all this stuff.

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And I said to him, what's your record score of all time?

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And he said, 88.

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And I said, you're gonna average under 88 this year, average under your record score of your life this year.

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And he shot 38 on his first nine

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That's pretty insane.

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the other day, 38.

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For someone whose record score of all time was 88.

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Why we went through the process that you and I have talked about on this show.

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So many times we got into the, into the heart of the matter and we said, what are we lacking to play better in your skillset?

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What are we lacking?

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And is your equipment lacking?

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Is your access to skill lacking?

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Does your swing need to change?

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And a little bit of all that had to happen.

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Okay.

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And all of a sudden he's hitting better shots and we've never even talked about scoring and he's scoring better.

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So, super cool.

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And I've had several of those stories this winter with folks that have come and done a series of lessons to, to, to improve in the winter.

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It's just really, really fun to see and I'm fired up about it.

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And carrying that into Masters week is so exciting.

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Um, I didn't get to watch much of it today'cause I, I just got home from work and saw a little bit, but,

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I just saw the leaderboard.

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so what's been happening on your lesson t out there in Charlottesville, Robbie?

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We seen anything fun out there?

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Any, any big concepts that are really clicking with people these days?

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Yeah, I think, um, as I try to reflect about it, you know, I was actually talking to, uh, mark Grace not too long ago on the phone.

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Um, and it's just

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Mark Grace, friend of the pod.

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Yes.

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And I was just commenting on how they're starting to look a little bit more similar than different.

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Um, the variability's a little bit more in the skill and kind of what skill we're working on and how are we working on it.

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I think is where the variability is.

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But, um, working through Domino number one, which is acceptance, being on time and on task, I think I.

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are so many lessons where just knocking over that first domino cleans up so many things down the chain that you almost don't need to even go anywhere else.

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A lot of times, I had a, I had a really good one earlier this week where one of my clients went on a golf trip to Bakers Bay, and he's a casual golfer.

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He just hits balls on the range.

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Honestly.

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He comes to see me because he wants to hit draws.

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Uh, he just likes to see the ball of draw.

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He wants to see it go right to left.

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He's like, I just have the most fun when I see the ball do that, that's all I want you to tell me to, or all I want you to help me do.

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And I was like, okay, let's do it.

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I'm, I'm not in the business of, uh, telling you what goals you should or shouldn't have, right?

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If, if a draw helps you

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Mm-hmm.

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I'll help you hit a draw.

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And,

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what it's all about.

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and he, uh, he went on the golf trip and, you know, I.

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I don't care who you are.

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The, the score still matters.

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Like people still, uh, have an importance of, of score.

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And so he, um, he definitely experienced a little bit of anxiety on the golf course based off of his feedback.

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He said that my swing started getting really fast.

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It got really short.

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I started hitting these wild fades, and then I started just aiming 50 yards left and just trying to bunt my driver out there.

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I stopped hitting, then I stopped hitting driver, I started hitting seven irons, and it just, it got to be this very, very aversive experience where he is like, you know, I was seven holes left.

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I was like, many holes?

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Like, how, how many more holes do I have to endure this for?

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Right?

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And so

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Ugh.

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it was a very, very kind of dark and stormy place to be.

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But I just asked him, I was like, okay, well, what, did you regret more?

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Did you regret the shots?

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Did not going the way you want?

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Or do you regret how you went about it?

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And he, like, without a, like a moment's delay, he's like, oh, I, I regretted, like how I went about it.

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Like I just started playing scared.

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I started, um, trying to control this.

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I started, and, and we just had a really good conversation about like, hey, like you have two types of regret.

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have type one, which is you gave it your all, you did it exactly the way you wanted to do it and the outcomes just didn't work out.

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And then type two is you allowed something that already happened or hasn't happened yet to change the way you were doing it, so you actually didn't do it the way you wanted to do it in the first place.

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Right?

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And so he was like,

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Yeah.

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it was all type two regret.

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It's like the entire time I was like, okay, so what can we do to help sidestep this in the future?

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He's like, well, I was like, I, I just really think if I can just before I go out, just like find that like rhythm or kind find that freedom that we've talked about.

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First I was like, okay, great, then let's do that.

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Let's, let's.

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Get the club swinging back and forth the way that you wanna swing it.

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And then whenever you're ready, you're just gonna walk that swing into a golf ball.

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And first few, the skills definitely didn't line up right.

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Bottom swing was higher, lower for the forward, for the back.

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Um, but we just kept with it, kept with it, kept with it, and he probably hit to 20 balls, not even on the face, like over.

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then I asked him like, how did that, like, were you happy with how the general swing felt?

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He was like, oh my gosh.

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Like that felt so much better.

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Like it wasn't hurting.

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He's like, literally my swing started hurting me halfway through the round because I was like so tight.

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He's like, um, it feels faster.

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It feels like I could do it the entire round and not get tired.

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I'm like, okay, great.

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It's like, so let's keep that the same.

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Let's not change that and let's just explore where you could get the bottom of that swing rhythm.

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I.

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In space, higher, lower, further forward for the back.

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So we did some differential training.

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Turns out the bottom of his golf swing was about half an inch further forward than he thought it was, right?

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So he is hitting everything off the heel.

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He either didn't recognize it or just didn't have the confidence to try to change it.

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So we just gave him an intent.

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It was like, okay, I want you to swing this thing as freely as you possibly can.

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Just get the bottom of the golf swing about a half inch closer to you than what you think is correct.

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So you're gonna try to make an error, quote unquote, in the opposite direction of your tendency.

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Flush rocket, flush rocket, flush rocket, flush rocket.

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And he just looked at me, he was like, I fixed the wrong thing.

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I was like, yep, you fi, you were trying to fix your general, you were trying to solve a skill problem.

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Well, first off, you weren't willing to accept those outcomes.

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First off, that was, that was really the, the big issue, number one, and then an unwillingness to accept that could happen caused you to.

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Tighten up, try to control this thing, and you started changing your general swing opposed to just changing the thing that's causing the ball to do what it's doing.

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And,

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Mm-hmm.

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and so I think he now understands that next time that happens, he's gonna push the right button.

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He's gonna push a much better button.

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Right.

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To try to, he's gonna flip a much better switch in order to try to get that performance going in the right direction.

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And it's not just to get the performance going in the right direction, but our feedback is like, okay, regardless of the outcome, regardless of what you shoot, can you sign your name to the scorecard?

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Can you finish the round okay, that was, I, I gave it what I, what I got.

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Right?

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I, I sent it, I gave it a chance, I did everything that I wanted to do the way I wanted to do it.

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It just didn't work out today.

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Right.

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And that's gonna be so

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Mm-hmm.

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for him.

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And he'll, even though like he might not shoot the number he wants, but he's gonna have a heck of a lot more fun playing these awesome golf courses than he will just steering it around the park.

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Right.

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Yeah.

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That's coaching.

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That's coaching, right.

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So, and it, for, for a long time in golf instruction, I think it was, it was all swing.

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It was all swing instruction.

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Like if you, if you went for a lesson, you were getting swing instruction, driver instruction, iron instruction, short game instruction, it was just, that's what it was.

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I teach the swing.

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You came to me to learn the swing, right?

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And what you just went through was an, an encapsulation of coaching, right?

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Like, it, it was, okay, let's set the table for success.

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Let's find out what's gonna drive you.

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Let's find out what's gonna make you better.

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We all know this from being students in our lives and playing multiple sports.

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Those coaches that influenced us and those teachers that influenced us.

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They understood who we were and they understood what was going on with us and what, what they could draw out of us to play our best.

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And what you did there, this is what, this is what instruction's all about.

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It's about drawing out of the player and understanding.

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Yep.

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Of how to play their best.

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You asked him questions, he looked inside himself, he started to understand what the correlation between, um, his issues were and his enjoyment was.

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And by doing that, that that organic learning process is what sticks in the end.

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It is not what we do.

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Should not be, although it is sometimes with, with people that teach golf,

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yep.

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here's the thing you need to do.

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Mm-hmm.

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is why.

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'cause I said, so this is what, you know, and I'm hoping we're evolving in the right.

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This is why we have this show.

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We're trying to put this message out.

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Right.

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A lot of, a lot of instructors are very much like we are.

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Right.

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I'm not saying we have all the answers either, by the way, but it,

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and

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it's just, we definitely don't by the way.

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Yeah, if I can interject is like, I think that is the difference in what we're doing is like you and

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Right.

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you and I are acknowledging the fact.

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we are working with incomplete information.

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We're

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Yeah.

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the fact

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And it's okay.

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it's okay.

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We're acknowledging the fact that there are a lot of options to this.

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Right.

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Yeah,

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Whereas I think a lot of other instructors operating on the fact that I am the gatekeeper of the right answer.

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Right?

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correct.

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is no

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Yeah.

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this is, this is the way it is.

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Right?

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no, I think that is probably the, the distinction

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If you wanna see how golf used to be taught, and I'm not, I'm not doing this to pick on anybody or to criticize, um, but there's, there's some historic moments in the golf kind of instruction world, and one of'em was, is this famous moment where.

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Two golf instructors basically almost threw down with each other.

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They were arguing so much at a, at a, at a teaching seminar.

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And people talk about it.

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They'll show it on the big screen at different things.

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And one of them's name was Jimmy Ballard, who's a great instructor.

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This is Rocco Mediates instructor.

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He worked with, um, heard his strange at the height.

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Like, this guy's great, right?

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But he's the epitome of, I've got the answers.

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Listen to what I have to say.

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Everything I say is right.

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And this was in the eighties and nineties, so it was a very different time.

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Right.

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But if you, you can go on Instagram and find a Jimmy Ballard Instagram account.

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I've been following.

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I'll watch these videos.

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They're hysterical.

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'cause it's just what we're telling.

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It's just what you were saying.

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Yeah, for

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like, he'll say, you gotta do this with your right hip because this does this and this does this and you gotta lift your arm and you gotta do this.

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'cause you have to, you have to.

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You can't, you can't, you can't.

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You know.

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And so I just watch it and I, and I learn, you know, I watch to learn.

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'cause I bet he does have some good answers.

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Right.

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He taught, I.

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Rocco and Curtis Strange and all these guys.

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So he, he, he knows things, but at the end of the day, it's, it's not a very, it's a very different way of instructing than what what we just laid out.

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Right.

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And I think that what we're talking about is coaching, and I think there's a distinction there, right?

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You can go find some sensei that has, you know, whatever, these are my answers and my rules or, but at the end of the day, hopefully what we do is work with people with what they have,

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Yep.

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try to draw out of them, try to gain understanding.

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And all we try to do is gain understanding every day too.

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And I think that's what helps us is open-minded, growth-minded people to coach the game in a way that I feel satisfied with at the end of the day.

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Right.

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Um, and so I, I'm excited.

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I, I've seen a lot of, a lot of growth

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Yeah.

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outta the people that come to see me.

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I, I get, I've been getting, and I'm not saying this to brag, but I, I'm saying this because I think with the golf intervention.

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You and I have discussed this, it almost forced us to come together and lay out in a way we could communicate better to a podcast world what it is we're trying to do.

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And in so doing, I've gotten better at what I'm trying to do.

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And I, and there's no question about it.

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And so, and I'm getting messages, like text messages or emails, like I got two emails today from people I taught that literally said, thank you so much for today.

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And I mean, I teach thou I've taught tens of thousands of lessons, right?

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But it's pretty rare an hour later to get a message that says, Hey, I just really think that was great, you know?

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Um, not that it, and so got two of those today.

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Pretty fun.

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And, and I'm, and I really do count this show for helping me not change how I teach, but communicate it better and think about it deeper and, and learn more.

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And, and so thank you for doing that with me.

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Uh, Rob fails.

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'cause I think we're.

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We're, uh, we're both learning and growing as we

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and, and I

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move along in our career.

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echo the same thing, is like the, the enjoyment in the session for me personally as well as my student, is one thing that I've seen.

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Be a lot different from when I was more like, I guess, authoritarian in my coaching.

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It was like, right.

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Uh, to now.

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Um, because it's really just share with the student, you know, first what are the options?

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Right?

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We have overall strategy, we have our process for predicting and, and having an intention for a shot.

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We have skill and we have our swing, right?

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And then swing, I lump kind of like grip posture right into that as well.

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Yeah.

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And

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Yep.

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I tell them, I was like, Hey, like if we're gonna go out and perform today, tomorrow, like we're probably just gonna stay up in those first two.

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Like, what is your overall strategy?

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And then can we develop a process for creating an intention and a prediction?

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Like, you're never gonna get worse.

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You're only gonna get better.

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Right?

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And it's gonna give you more margin for error.

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Right?

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If we're here to learn and, and acquire something that we don't already have, it's probably gonna be more like something skill development or swing related.

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Right?

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I don't know currently what the best option for you is, but let's start somewhere, right?

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And let's let it play out a little bit and let's see where we get.

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Um, and I think if you can just be honest with your client and just say, Hey, look, this is, this is we're gonna explore together.

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It's so much more fun because it's almost like this, this experimentation that we're both running, right?

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At the same time, it's like, okay, we're gonna test this for a little bit.

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Let's see what happens.

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Give me your feedback.

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What did you notice there?

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Is that something that you think you could do, on the golf course or when it matters?

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Right?

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And so it's, think a much more intrinsic way of, of going about it really.

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It's, it's, um, less anxiety, right?

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Because I used to

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Mm-hmm.

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there saying, oh gosh, I, I better get this right'cause I got one shot.

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I gotta, I gotta

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Yep.

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the one thing that's gonna make this person, but now it's like, no, I can, I'm, I can pretty much do what I want.

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Like, and it's, and I'm

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Oh yeah.

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I'm not gonna be steadfast to say, okay, the, the first answer I'm gonna come up with is the, the thing, right?

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It's gonna be no.

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Like, we've got a ton of options here.

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Like half the time I'm just making a guess.

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I'm like, all right, I got somebody in front of me.

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Do I think that with their current rhythm, if I just do differential training, if I think, you know, is that gonna get them what they need?

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I've been surprised before.

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I've been like, I don't, I think they really need some grip posture, kind of swing stuff.

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But we're gonna go differential training here and see what happens.

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And then just like through the differential training they get way back.

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I'm like, okay, alright.

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That was cool.

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That was surprising.

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And then sometimes it's the other way around.

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Sometimes I'll start with saying, okay, let's take what you're currently doing and, and do some skill stuff and see what we get.

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And it's just like beating our head against the wall.

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And it's like, all right, cool.

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That was, uh, I wasn't expecting that to, to not get us anywhere.

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But that's okay.

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We'll we will pivot and, and we will go into some grip, posture, swing stuff or you know, we can even do some process stuff.

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Right.

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I mean it's, it's,

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Yeah.

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there's a lot of options.

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So, um, yeah, I think just that, that awareness and understanding of like, we don't have the one answer I think is a, a lot more fun way to coach and, and the players, it is a lot more fun for the player'cause they're having the, the choice, right?

00:22:48.328 --> 00:22:50.608
We're giving them like, okay, now you give me the feedback.

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Tell me what you perceive there.

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It's not, it's not us telling right.

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Yeah.

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I would say the one, the one thing that cracks me up though, even it happens several times a week to me, is the student that goes.

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Tell me, tell me what I need to do.

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Right.

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I know.

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Make, you know, before we sort of go through any of the process, they'll be like, oh, I came over the top, or I, I hit that bad.

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What do I usually it's just bad contact.

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What do I need to change?

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What do I need to do?

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And I'll be like, well, let's, uh, hit a few more and then we will, we will figure it out, you know, we'll kind of, we'll kind of work through it.

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And so to slow that person down is a little tricky.

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and that's,

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I just need you to tell me, well, we're gonna get there.

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We're gonna, we're gonna get there.

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And then we get there and it's like, oh, cool.

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Like, things are, things are going well.

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So

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job is to be able to take them from.

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You know, they, they experience an outcome and they look right back at us.

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Right.

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They're, they're trying to, um, they're trying to look at for, for outside

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I do there?

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Exactly.

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And our job is to turn that around and be able to, to give them the tools to be able to say, alright, which skill was outta place?

00:24:05.473 --> 00:24:08.263
Or was, did you just steer it right or did,

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Yeah.

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being able to start to diagnose this thing accurately, I think is, uh, is most of our job really.

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So as we get into the topic for tonight's episode, which is How bad do you want It?

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Um, I think it's fun.

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I kind of, I kind of harken back to an assistant pro that we had that was from Knoxville, Tennessee, big time, big, like quintessential Knoxville, Tennessee, SEC football guy, right?

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And when we talk about football, he said, I don't, I don't know if he wants it bad enough.

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I don't know if he wants it.

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Everything was about wanting it.

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I think at the SEC it's all about how bad do you want it, right?

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What are you willing to do?

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It just means more, but at the end of the day.

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When you talk about your goal, when you talk about your goal, well, you're an,

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a Clemson grad.

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I can't stand the SEC,

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yeah, I'm a Big 10 guy.

00:25:01.038 --> 00:25:04.188
Big 10, kind of dominated college football this year, but I digress.

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Don't get mad to me people, it's just the facts.

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So, um, as we look at how bad do we want it, what does that really mean?

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Well, I think it's this, I think it's like, there, there's some parallels and, and this is kind of what got me thinking about it this week, this topic of an episode, is, I think there's a lot of parallels in the development of golf game development of a lot of things.

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But golf is, golf is tough.

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know?

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Golf is hard.

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We don't know when it's gonna improve.

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It's a little mystic at times with what we're doing.

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It can, where there's highs and lows and there's cycles and there's all this stuff, right?

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We can feel good, we can feel bad.

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Not everything's like that.

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Right?

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I don't think pickleball is like that.

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You know, you kind of, I.

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You play and have fun and you know it's over.

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So, um, but golf is such a tough sport.

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You learn so much about yourself.

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And there, I've always thought there's so many parallels between just like general health and wellness and golf.

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Like when people are trying to say, Hey, I need to get healthier.

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I need to get in shape, I need to clean up my diet.

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Like, so here I am, I'm a lot older than Rob is, and now I'm pushing into my late forties and I'm like, you know what?

00:26:15.436 --> 00:26:18.856
I gotta focus on my health and wellness.

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Not that I'm like on a super unhealthy, I'm not, I'm not on any medications.

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I'm not, you know, I might have, I kind of got a little overweight the last few years, but not massively, just a few, few extra pounds, like as we do in our forties.

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And so I'm like, look, I.

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I need to figure out, because last year I played very little golf and I didn't feel very good physically.

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And those two things probably went kind of hand in hand in a way.

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For

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And so I decided I'm gonna focus on my health for a while.

00:26:49.728 --> 00:26:53.146
So I've gotta figure out how I'm gonna make time for that.

00:26:53.626 --> 00:26:53.957
Right?

00:26:54.676 --> 00:26:58.038
We have limited resources in our life, right?

00:26:58.038 --> 00:27:05.748
And the main resources that we struggle with are time, energy, and money are the things that we're sort of allocating out.

00:27:05.748 --> 00:27:09.707
And everybody, most everybody has to calculate that out in some way, shape, or form.

00:27:09.946 --> 00:27:15.798
I know me as a 40 something year old with a, you know, I'm a golf pro, so we know what that schedule's like.

00:27:16.218 --> 00:27:20.926
And I got four kids at home and I've got a little bit of land that I gotta take care of here on this property.

00:27:21.228 --> 00:27:23.116
And I got two golden retriever dog.

00:27:23.116 --> 00:27:25.008
I got stuff I gotta deal with here, right?

00:27:25.488 --> 00:27:29.207
So trying to carve out, um.

00:27:30.076 --> 00:27:36.856
Time and energy for, to focus on me is a, it's a little bit outside my personality.

00:27:37.217 --> 00:27:41.957
And then b, it's, it's gonna be a challenge'cause I don't feel like I have a ton of time anyway.

00:27:42.196 --> 00:27:42.467
Right.

00:27:43.067 --> 00:28:00.946
So I had to sit down, you know, and basically plan out what am I gonna give up in my life, which I don't do a ton of stuff anyway to make sure I have the time and energy to do and am I willing to do the thing I haven't done in the recent years.

00:28:01.606 --> 00:28:03.228
And so I've been, I've been, I.

00:28:04.038 --> 00:28:04.968
Now, I'm not moti.

00:28:04.968 --> 00:28:07.038
I'm trying not to be motivated by anything.

00:28:07.038 --> 00:28:08.326
I'm trying to be disciplined.

00:28:08.508 --> 00:28:15.018
And I think this is kind of one of our points for today is when you're trying to improve at something, motivation comes and goes.

00:28:15.018 --> 00:28:17.326
It's masters week, which gets me thinking about this too.

00:28:17.748 --> 00:28:27.886
Everybody gets motivated to want to play golf and play better golf'cause it,'cause the masters is so inspiring and that usually lasts a couple weeks and then it goes away, right?

00:28:28.667 --> 00:28:36.346
But if you can develop discipline on what it is that you're trying to do, I think it can lend you to improvement.

00:28:36.616 --> 00:28:41.057
So the first thing we're gonna talk about here is that just allocation of

00:28:41.493 --> 00:28:41.713
of

00:28:41.866 --> 00:28:42.407
life.

00:28:42.798 --> 00:28:52.008
If you are willing to, are you willing to carve out a bigger, uh, time in your life for golf?

00:28:52.008 --> 00:28:53.146
And how are you gonna do that?

00:28:53.356 --> 00:28:53.718
Right?

00:28:54.288 --> 00:28:54.917
So.

00:28:55.653 --> 00:28:55.773
I,

00:28:55.863 --> 00:28:57.032
think this is one of the big things.

00:28:57.032 --> 00:28:59.222
If I'm gonna improve at golf, I've gotta change what I'm doing.

00:28:59.222 --> 00:29:00.212
I gotta change a habit.

00:29:00.393 --> 00:29:01.173
Is that true, Rob?

00:29:01.173 --> 00:29:01.413
Like

00:29:01.443 --> 00:29:01.733
Yeah.

00:29:01.893 --> 00:29:04.472
habit change is probably like the biggest thing.

00:29:04.738 --> 00:29:11.613
And, and growth mindset again, laying the foundation for, yeah, okay.

00:29:11.613 --> 00:29:13.413
So I gotta, I gotta do something else.

00:29:13.413 --> 00:29:13.833
Right?

00:29:14.282 --> 00:29:20.282
So when you have someone coming to you and they say, Hey, you know, I really want to improve at golf.

00:29:20.282 --> 00:29:29.702
I've been a, I've been a 12 handicap for 32 straight years, and I wanna, I wanna be a, I wanna be a six'cause I'm going to Scotland this summer.

00:29:29.702 --> 00:29:30.123
And I,

00:29:30.354 --> 00:29:30.773
Mm-hmm.

00:29:31.952 --> 00:29:33.722
I, I watch the masters

00:29:33.834 --> 00:29:34.124
Yeah.

00:29:34.292 --> 00:29:41.462
then I, I decided I'm gonna go to Scotland and I'm gonna play carti and I wanna be good at golf for that trip and I wanna play better.

00:29:41.942 --> 00:29:48.482
Um, what do you, as a coach, how do you as a coach approach that conversation?

00:29:48.523 --> 00:29:54.252
Yeah, I would, I would probably call timeout and just get curious about what that really means to them.

00:29:55.124 --> 00:29:56.294
So like, okay.

00:29:56.472 --> 00:29:57.702
Let's talk a little bit about that.

00:29:57.702 --> 00:29:58.992
Like what would that mean to you?

00:29:59.144 --> 00:29:59.502
Right.

00:29:59.502 --> 00:30:10.364
So the biggest thing, kind of where I'm leading here is that if your motivation is based off of getting somewhere like this external, like, okay, I've gotta get to a six.

00:30:11.084 --> 00:30:13.124
first off, like the quote unquote got to, right?

00:30:13.124 --> 00:30:21.554
Like, you can see that we're imposing these, uh, say, um, requirements, right?

00:30:21.554 --> 00:30:23.354
So if we, uh, if we think about Dr.

00:30:23.354 --> 00:30:24.584
Pryor's, um.

00:30:25.048 --> 00:30:28.108
A first A shaped versus V-shaped beliefs, right?

00:30:28.108 --> 00:30:33.778
So A shaped would be at the top, very minimal space, which would be room for error.

00:30:33.959 --> 00:30:38.068
At the bottom would be widespread long-term consequences, right?

00:30:38.068 --> 00:30:46.588
And then conversely, V-shaped would be at the top, a lot of margin of error with very temporary specific external consequences.

00:30:47.608 --> 00:30:53.398
So when I hear, okay, I just, I gotta get to a six.

00:30:54.689 --> 00:30:58.588
The first question I was like, okay, well I believe you can get there, but what?

00:30:58.648 --> 00:30:59.459
What if you didn't?

00:31:00.509 --> 00:31:00.868
Right?

00:31:02.398 --> 00:31:02.999
What if you didn't?

00:31:03.041 --> 00:31:03.393
Right.

00:31:04.259 --> 00:31:11.219
And I think it just starts to open up the conversation about like, why are we doing what we're doing?

00:31:11.969 --> 00:31:16.979
And I think the more we can start to value the things that we are.

00:31:17.909 --> 00:31:19.709
from the process of getting there.

00:31:19.949 --> 00:31:26.127
Say, okay, well the things that you're gonna need to do to get to a six, well, how is that going to change your daily behaviors?

00:31:26.127 --> 00:31:27.749
What kind of things are you putting in place?

00:31:27.749 --> 00:31:31.199
What are you doing to, make that possible?

00:31:31.557 --> 00:31:42.567
If we can get the value from the thing that we're doing while we're doing it, if you don't get there, then it's like you're still coming out ahead, right?

00:31:42.567 --> 00:31:45.057
Because you actually enjoyed the process.

00:31:45.057 --> 00:31:51.898
You actually got something from it, and whether or not the outcome was what you wanted is inconsequential, right?

00:31:51.898 --> 00:31:54.388
It was always worth the, the effort.

00:31:55.048 --> 00:32:05.307
Whereas if it's like, no, I gotta get to a six because my buddy's a six, or my, my, my other, like, whatever they're gonna think of me is gonna depend on if I'm a six or not.

00:32:05.307 --> 00:32:09.538
Well, are you sure you wanna make that sacrifice because you're gonna get there?

00:32:09.567 --> 00:32:11.278
Let's say you get there, then it's like.

00:32:11.909 --> 00:32:16.528
Okay, this, this is all, this is all for this.

00:32:16.588 --> 00:32:17.999
Like, what's next kind of thing.

00:32:17.999 --> 00:32:27.058
So it's like, me, it, it's, the more that you can, you can talk about, okay, what are, what are the, what are the benefits?

00:32:27.058 --> 00:32:36.989
Where are the long term, what outcomes that, that we want to, to develop regardless of whether we get there or not.

00:32:36.989 --> 00:32:40.499
I think, I think that's really kind of what we wanna try to, uh, instill.

00:32:43.038 --> 00:32:48.498
One of our favorite episode, one of my favorite episodes that we did was called Are Your Goals Killing Your Gains?

00:32:49.157 --> 00:32:51.106
And we talked a lot about this kind of.

00:32:51.528 --> 00:32:52.218
Discussion.

00:32:52.907 --> 00:33:06.258
And it was, it was really fascinating to me to realize how de-motivating or ab obstructive of your process, it can be to put a timeline on a goal like that.

00:33:06.258 --> 00:33:09.377
Like, I wanna be X by X time.

00:33:09.617 --> 00:33:11.897
It, it's very destructive, right?

00:33:12.407 --> 00:33:19.367
All of a sudden now your mental state of like, am I keeping up to, to your point that, that like, am I keeping up?

00:33:19.367 --> 00:33:21.978
There's no, there's no margin for error there, right?

00:33:21.978 --> 00:33:22.248
And

00:33:22.453 --> 00:33:22.634
gonna

00:33:22.728 --> 00:33:27.107
how I'm behind I'm not right, and am I gonna be okay when I get there?

00:33:27.288 --> 00:33:33.768
And so what we have to delve into a little bit is A, where's the motivation coming from?

00:33:34.278 --> 00:33:40.518
And B, understanding that motivation is fleeting so that CI can focus on the process, right?

00:33:40.998 --> 00:33:41.387
So.

00:33:42.063 --> 00:33:47.282
You, you're basically coaching that person up to say, Hey, I understand what you're saying.

00:33:47.403 --> 00:33:48.932
Let's talk about the process.

00:33:48.992 --> 00:33:59.553
And then I would say that my biggest thing I have in that conversation right there at the same moment is I basically say, here's the process, right?

00:33:59.608 --> 00:33:59.898
Yeah.

00:33:59.942 --> 00:34:02.343
This is what, this is what the process looks like.

00:34:02.583 --> 00:34:04.893
And I think that's where golfers are very stuck.

00:34:04.893 --> 00:34:09.603
That's why our show, I think is resonating with people is,'cause we talk about this process all the time.

00:34:10.322 --> 00:34:14.552
It's like, if I'm gonna improve, what is it that I need to do?

00:34:14.552 --> 00:34:16.293
What is that process like?

00:34:16.563 --> 00:34:23.838
And I think that what, I'm glad we started with a little bit of a discussion about, um, how the off season instruction has gone and what we're seeing recently because.

00:34:25.443 --> 00:34:29.282
When people come in and they say, Hey, I've got the, I wanna play better.

00:34:29.552 --> 00:34:33.722
I'm ready to, what I'm actually saying is, let's take the timelines off of all that.

00:34:34.322 --> 00:34:34.563
Right.

00:34:34.563 --> 00:34:36.722
Let's, let's, let's, yeah.

00:34:36.722 --> 00:34:38.342
We're, we're taking the timelines off.

00:34:38.342 --> 00:34:44.793
We're taking, we're gonna build acceptance and, and that we're gonna focus on what it is that we're focusing on.

00:34:44.813 --> 00:34:45.103
Yeah,

00:34:45.152 --> 00:34:57.362
And one of the things that I've found in that process, which is really, really fun to communicate to people in their feedback is this, and we talked about this a lot in the last few episodes, which is people always wanna work on their swings.

00:34:57.407 --> 00:34:57.697
Okay.

00:34:57.702 --> 00:34:59.282
'cause they don't understand skill.

00:34:59.492 --> 00:34:59.913
Okay.

00:35:00.333 --> 00:35:05.463
And so, right, so you have golf shots, everybody understands that part.

00:35:05.463 --> 00:35:08.163
I'm swinging and then there's a shot, right?

00:35:08.552 --> 00:35:14.913
And basically what Robbie has said, and I just think it's a brilliant way to describe, it's like there's an in-between part to this.

00:35:14.913 --> 00:35:22.472
There's skill in between there and that skill, what we've defined on here in most of your full, especially in the full swing part, is.

00:35:23.552 --> 00:35:28.353
Essentially the skill is like, okay, can I make good contact with the ball?

00:35:28.563 --> 00:35:28.893
Right?

00:35:29.733 --> 00:35:32.012
Proper good contact for what my goals are.

00:35:32.282 --> 00:35:37.833
Consi, you know, in some consistent way, which is gonna have variability, but in line with our goals.

00:35:38.282 --> 00:35:45.393
Two, can I control the face and path relationship with emphasis on face to control the ball flight, you know, the way I need to.

00:35:45.813 --> 00:35:51.242
And then three is what, what's the speed or energy like of the swing that I'm, that I'm producing?

00:35:51.242 --> 00:35:58.563
So, um, and then those things produce shots, and then you put the shots into the context of scoring, right?

00:35:58.563 --> 00:36:00.543
And you've got this process that you're seeing, right?

00:36:01.023 --> 00:36:08.163
So like, somebody came in today and they were just, they were swinging, swinging, swinging, hooking, hooking.

00:36:08.432 --> 00:36:10.742
And they're like, what did I, what did swing, what did I do with my swing?

00:36:10.773 --> 00:36:12.393
What, why was that swing worse than this swing?

00:36:12.398 --> 00:36:14.943
And, and I said, just let's slow down here for a second.

00:36:15.003 --> 00:36:15.422
Okay?

00:36:16.023 --> 00:36:18.693
I said, what if I told you I thought your swing was fine?

00:36:19.682 --> 00:36:20.612
And he was like, what do you mean?

00:36:20.853 --> 00:36:21.693
I said, your swing is fine.

00:36:22.532 --> 00:36:23.913
But I'm hitting it all over the place.

00:36:24.512 --> 00:36:26.552
Yeah, we're gonna work on your skills.

00:36:26.762 --> 00:36:27.152
Okay.

00:36:28.172 --> 00:36:28.742
Okay.

00:36:28.922 --> 00:36:29.523
Well, what do you mean?

00:36:29.583 --> 00:36:35.552
So we go through just like we would, well, you know, the impact location's a little bit iffy.

00:36:35.702 --> 00:36:37.893
The face is very variable, swing to swing.

00:36:37.893 --> 00:36:40.052
So we gotta kind of think about that for a second.

00:36:40.052 --> 00:36:42.512
That's the big controller of the issues that you're seeing.

00:36:42.873 --> 00:36:44.943
But your swing itself is functioning pretty well.

00:36:44.943 --> 00:36:47.463
Balance and rhythm and speed is awesome.

00:36:47.463 --> 00:36:51.213
And like we can hit the shots with the swing you have.

00:36:51.302 --> 00:36:52.652
We just gotta work on your skills.

00:36:53.012 --> 00:36:53.943
And he was like, oh.

00:36:53.943 --> 00:36:55.682
It was like really freeing to him, right?

00:36:55.682 --> 00:36:58.083
So we spent 10 minutes working on that.

00:36:58.532 --> 00:37:06.663
And so this is the part that's been really fun for me is when they, when they hit a shot and we're working on skill and I got track man running right?

00:37:07.143 --> 00:37:08.373
I say, don't worry about the shot.

00:37:08.853 --> 00:37:09.063
Why?

00:37:09.063 --> 00:37:11.132
Because we're not working on the shot, working on your skill.

00:37:11.342 --> 00:37:11.643
Right.

00:37:12.032 --> 00:37:16.833
Your skill here is we're trying to find some, some variability in the face that's acceptable for you, right?

00:37:16.833 --> 00:37:18.963
It's gonna make you happy, it's gonna make you score better.

00:37:19.322 --> 00:37:23.132
And so when you hit a shot or you hit a pattern of shots, we're gonna look at that.

00:37:23.163 --> 00:37:25.472
That's what we're gonna judge ourselves off of right now.

00:37:25.592 --> 00:37:28.713
We're not gonna judge ourselves off of the shots.

00:37:28.833 --> 00:37:29.313
What?

00:37:29.853 --> 00:37:30.123
Yeah.

00:37:30.452 --> 00:37:30.842
Okay.

00:37:30.963 --> 00:37:34.983
Or if I'm working on the swing, swing mechanics, right?

00:37:34.983 --> 00:37:35.523
Conversely,

00:37:36.498 --> 00:37:36.719
Um,

00:37:37.262 --> 00:37:39.273
okay, I'm working on this one thing.

00:37:39.333 --> 00:37:42.963
Whatever it is, it's temp, it's rhythm, it's, it's whatever.

00:37:43.353 --> 00:37:43.682
Okay.

00:37:43.862 --> 00:37:44.972
Think of swing mechanics.

00:37:45.063 --> 00:37:46.262
Just name one, doesn't matter.

00:37:46.503 --> 00:37:46.773
Okay.

00:37:48.213 --> 00:37:50.043
Well, we're not looking at the skills right now.

00:37:50.132 --> 00:37:50.913
Oh, I missed that one.

00:37:50.913 --> 00:37:51.152
Yeah.

00:37:51.182 --> 00:37:51.693
Who cares?

00:37:51.722 --> 00:37:53.043
We're not focused on that, right?

00:37:53.253 --> 00:38:01.503
We're focused on the swing to, I want you to judge yourself on how you did the swing, how you approached it, how you executed it, right.

00:38:01.802 --> 00:38:04.023
We're gonna try and, and focus on that.

00:38:04.143 --> 00:38:04.503
Right.

00:38:04.592 --> 00:38:07.023
And then it goes back through that process.

00:38:07.172 --> 00:38:10.112
Swing skills, shots, scoring.

00:38:10.382 --> 00:38:18.632
So you're just, and, and I think that people all of a sudden are going like, oh, you just taught me how to practice.

00:38:18.869 --> 00:38:19.088
Yep.

00:38:19.322 --> 00:38:21.782
You just taught me how to focus when I'm prac.

00:38:21.782 --> 00:38:23.463
You just taught me how to learn

00:38:23.528 --> 00:38:23.949
Mm-hmm.

00:38:24.273 --> 00:38:25.143
better golf.

00:38:25.443 --> 00:38:26.163
'cause we had that.

00:38:26.672 --> 00:38:30.302
So when they say, when we tell people, Hey, there's a process to getting better.

00:38:31.443 --> 00:38:33.782
Well, let's work on the process, right?

00:38:33.992 --> 00:38:35.702
Foundation is growth mindset.

00:38:35.972 --> 00:38:39.722
We work through these swing processes, like producing skills.

00:38:39.722 --> 00:38:40.503
It's really cool.

00:38:40.682 --> 00:38:48.693
And so the communication of that, this is some of the tightening, tightening of the communication I've been talking about, um, with my students, which has been really fun.

00:38:48.902 --> 00:38:51.632
And so I get them really honed in on that.

00:38:51.663 --> 00:39:00.992
Now, ask yourself in the context of this podcast topic, ask yourself, listener, am I willing?

00:39:01.023 --> 00:39:01.893
How bad do I want it?

00:39:01.922 --> 00:39:08.793
Am I willing to let go of shot for a little bit to work on other things if I have to?

00:39:08.878 --> 00:39:09.298
Mm-hmm.

00:39:09.693 --> 00:39:11.253
Am I willing to do that?

00:39:11.402 --> 00:39:16.652
'cause golfers are really, really hard on themselves when it comes to the shots that they hit.

00:39:17.222 --> 00:39:27.003
And so I find it's hard when you're working on skill or swing to get'em to let go a little bit there, to get into the, into the development phase.

00:39:27.193 --> 00:39:27.824
a hundred percent.

00:39:27.824 --> 00:39:36.643
And like, the biggest thing that I, that I've noticed in terms of why that is, is that oftentimes we place priorities on things that aren't relevant.

00:39:36.643 --> 00:39:40.903
So number one is other people's perceptions of us.

00:39:43.844 --> 00:39:45.704
So, again, let's go back through this.

00:39:45.704 --> 00:39:49.034
All right, so golfer walks in and says, okay, I want to get to a six.

00:39:49.963 --> 00:39:51.673
It's like, okay, let's, let's talk about that.

00:39:51.704 --> 00:39:52.034
Like.

00:39:53.264 --> 00:39:54.943
To get to a six, right?

00:39:55.003 --> 00:39:59.773
We're gonna probably need to learn to be more focused on the task at hand.

00:40:00.103 --> 00:40:01.664
We're gonna need to be more present.

00:40:02.414 --> 00:40:13.184
We're gonna be, need to be more accepting, And we're gonna need to be smarter about how we're allocating our time and work harder to get better, not look better.

00:40:13.784 --> 00:40:16.514
So if we're like, okay, yeah, sign me up.

00:40:16.514 --> 00:40:25.003
Like, if I could develop those four values or those four core, um, behaviors, then even if I don't get there, I know I'm gonna be better off for it.

00:40:25.003 --> 00:40:25.994
I was like, okay, awesome.

00:40:26.114 --> 00:40:26.923
Let's, let's go for it.

00:40:26.923 --> 00:40:27.313
Let's do it.

00:40:28.963 --> 00:40:38.563
Let at no point in that to get from here to there, is it relevant that, oh, Johnny, Johnny really liked that shot.

00:40:38.864 --> 00:40:39.943
He said that was a good shot.

00:40:39.943 --> 00:40:45.103
Like, at no point is that relevant, right?

00:40:45.197 --> 00:40:46.737
Is that relevant to you, Rob?

00:40:46.813 --> 00:40:50.653
other people, what other people think, right?

00:40:50.653 --> 00:40:51.943
Of, of what you're doing.

00:40:52.648 --> 00:40:57.239
Has no consequence on whether you develop those habits or not.

00:40:58.469 --> 00:40:58.978
Right.

00:40:59.128 --> 00:41:09.418
So think that is oftentimes the, one of the biggest barriers to this is that prioritize how we're perceived.

00:41:10.228 --> 00:41:11.938
And, and I know I do.

00:41:13.048 --> 00:41:14.608
and I think it's evolutionary.

00:41:14.608 --> 00:41:16.018
Like I think Dr.

00:41:16.018 --> 00:41:21.268
Pryor was talking about how there was a time in human history to where if, know, when we were tribal, right?

00:41:21.268 --> 00:41:24.688
If, if you weren't liked by the group, you get tossed out.

00:41:24.778 --> 00:41:25.018
Right.

00:41:25.018 --> 00:41:26.518
You're out into the, in the wildness.

00:41:26.518 --> 00:41:27.418
You, you're dead.

00:41:28.498 --> 00:41:28.679
If

00:41:28.773 --> 00:41:30.483
You are the last one to eat or whatever.

00:41:30.483 --> 00:41:30.753
Yeah.

00:41:30.813 --> 00:41:31.083
Yeah.

00:41:31.168 --> 00:41:39.688
So, the pro problem is like, as much as we've evolved now to where like, okay, we're not actually like that.

00:41:39.719 --> 00:41:40.018
Right.

00:41:40.048 --> 00:41:43.259
Someone like we could be not liked and it's not gonna necessarily.

00:41:44.579 --> 00:41:46.798
be a, uh, a life-threatening thing.

00:41:47.398 --> 00:41:52.469
Our brains haven't evolved at the speed that, like society has evolved, right?

00:41:52.469 --> 00:42:09.568
So our, we have to literally teach our brains that this thing that we're prioritizing is not relevant, So these come in the form of judgments of like, okay, this was good, this was bad, this was great, this was terrible.

00:42:09.568 --> 00:42:16.588
I try to get players to like, spend some time not judging the shot at all, just say, okay, the ball was here.

00:42:17.039 --> 00:42:17.998
Now it is there.

00:42:18.778 --> 00:42:19.619
That is what happened.

00:42:20.039 --> 00:42:21.148
The ball hit the heel.

00:42:21.958 --> 00:42:23.518
not good or bad, it's just ball hit the heel.

00:42:24.268 --> 00:42:24.568
Face was

00:42:24.818 --> 00:42:25.427
Data point.

00:42:25.708 --> 00:42:26.068
right?

00:42:26.219 --> 00:42:34.108
It's just, it's just a what exactly what just happened because that is developing a sense of awareness that is a.

00:42:35.188 --> 00:42:40.378
A, a key skill, a key behavior, a key value to get us where we want.

00:42:40.739 --> 00:42:42.568
At no point, right?

00:42:43.048 --> 00:42:44.579
Is, is judgment.

00:42:45.449 --> 00:42:50.398
Is um, is labeling going to help us get where we want?

00:42:50.398 --> 00:42:57.568
So I think that's, I just wanted to make that point as well, is that, uh, I think that's a huge barrier for us if we can start to strip

00:42:57.773 --> 00:43:00.663
Well, I also think people use that for motivation.

00:43:00.753 --> 00:43:02.913
And again, motivation's the wrong thing here,

00:43:03.268 --> 00:43:03.599
Yep.

00:43:03.632 --> 00:43:03.813
right?

00:43:03.813 --> 00:43:05.523
So if I'm using, if I'm motivated by, hey.

00:43:07.938 --> 00:43:11.237
And that's actually, this happens a fair amount, Eric.

00:43:11.297 --> 00:43:16.938
Um, this guy I play with all of a sudden is playing better than me, or he's hitting it further than me.

00:43:17.507 --> 00:43:25.458
And just to be honest, like I'm a better athlete than him, or I'm in better shape than him, or I've always beat him at golf and now I'm here.

00:43:25.458 --> 00:43:29.177
That's the motivation for taking the golf lesson or wanting to work on this one.

00:43:29.447 --> 00:43:30.797
That'll be so fleeting.

00:43:30.797 --> 00:43:31.458
It's crazy.

00:43:31.487 --> 00:43:32.867
Like that'll just come and go.

00:43:33.047 --> 00:43:33.407
Right?

00:43:34.007 --> 00:43:35.447
So when we talk about trying to.

00:43:35.858 --> 00:43:40.387
Try to, if we are motivated at times, like health and wellness, here's another thing.

00:43:40.387 --> 00:43:45.068
You go to the doctor and you realize, oh my gosh, I'm 20 pounds heavier than I thought I was.

00:43:45.068 --> 00:43:48.007
Or my blood pressure is up, or I'm, you know, I'm pre-diabetic.

00:43:48.007 --> 00:43:51.307
Like, these are things that, again, they're like motivators.

00:43:51.307 --> 00:43:57.487
Like, I've gotta get in shape or I gotta, you know, find wellness or work on my wellness.

00:43:57.967 --> 00:44:00.788
And again, if you use that as motivation, it's gonna come and go.

00:44:00.878 --> 00:44:04.838
What you have to develop is, is discipline, right?

00:44:04.838 --> 00:44:06.458
You've gotta develop a discipline.

00:44:06.847 --> 00:44:13.088
You've gotta have, like you were saying, I've gotta have acceptance with myself, I've gotta have acceptance of outcomes.

00:44:13.327 --> 00:44:19.688
And then I've gotta say, okay, um, in health and wellness, I'm not gonna be okay with certain outcomes, right?

00:44:19.688 --> 00:44:22.447
Like, I, I can't develop type two diabetes.

00:44:22.447 --> 00:44:24.097
I can't have high cholesterol.

00:44:24.097 --> 00:44:25.807
Like I am not gonna be obese.

00:44:25.807 --> 00:44:27.757
I am not okay with those outcomes, right?

00:44:28.117 --> 00:44:31.927
So I'm gonna be disciplined about how I approach.

00:44:32.432 --> 00:44:33.123
This new thing.

00:44:33.123 --> 00:44:39.152
So for me, how I fit this into my life, now we're looking at how do I allocate, how do I plan my life?

00:44:39.152 --> 00:44:40.532
How bad do I want it?

00:44:40.652 --> 00:44:41.043
Right?

00:44:41.552 --> 00:44:47.702
I've had to say, there's no chance in the world I'm ever gonna exercise after work.

00:44:48.032 --> 00:44:49.052
Zero chance.

00:44:49.563 --> 00:44:49.983
Zero.

00:44:50.228 --> 00:44:50.518
Yeah.

00:44:50.882 --> 00:44:51.782
Because I'm exhausted.

00:44:51.992 --> 00:44:54.603
I stand on my feet and teach for 11 hours a day.

00:44:54.813 --> 00:44:56.853
Like there's just no chance I'm gonna come home and work out.

00:44:56.853 --> 00:44:57.302
I can't do it.

00:44:57.302 --> 00:44:59.132
Plus I have dad duties, right?

00:44:59.822 --> 00:45:04.983
So what I've gotta do, and husband duties and, and home duties, like all these things come into play.

00:45:05.469 --> 00:45:05.688
so

00:45:05.702 --> 00:45:09.693
what I have to do, I know, is I've gotta allocate time in the morning for that.

00:45:09.873 --> 00:45:10.983
I've got to, right?

00:45:11.793 --> 00:45:16.413
And so I've gotta be disciplined to.

00:45:17.297 --> 00:45:22.128
Plan out my evenings so that I can plan out my mornings right?

00:45:22.427 --> 00:45:24.257
And I've gotta just kind of work on that.

00:45:24.498 --> 00:45:26.057
So that's what I've been doing.

00:45:26.117 --> 00:45:31.728
Been proud of myself, been getting up earlier, not crazy, not crazy earlier, but just a little bit earlier.

00:45:32.177 --> 00:45:42.108
And I'm, and I'm going through the motions of, you know, some level of exercise every morning, stretching, weight, training, a little bit of cardio here and there, like whatever.

00:45:42.827 --> 00:45:47.838
So it's gonna take time for me to develop that discipline over.

00:45:48.137 --> 00:45:49.307
Long periods of time.

00:45:49.788 --> 00:45:52.818
But what I'm trying to be careful about is not having any motivation.

00:45:52.818 --> 00:45:58.818
I'm not, I don't have, you know, motivational pictures up of like six pack abs or something.

00:45:58.818 --> 00:45:59.268
Like, I'm not,

00:45:59.309 --> 00:45:59.599
yeah,

00:45:59.628 --> 00:46:00.887
I'm not worried about any of that.

00:46:00.887 --> 00:46:01.277
Right?

00:46:01.788 --> 00:46:05.597
So what I'm trying to do is just develop the, the discipline and it's hard.

00:46:05.597 --> 00:46:06.347
It's very hard.

00:46:06.407 --> 00:46:07.577
It's hard to fit it into my life.

00:46:07.577 --> 00:46:08.597
I don't have tons of time.

00:46:09.288 --> 00:46:17.568
So as we look at golf improvement, we gotta find those parallels like, how do I fit in improvement into my life, right?

00:46:18.108 --> 00:46:21.978
We're busy, the time is limited, the resources are limited.

00:46:23.358 --> 00:46:29.688
And one of the big things that I would say is there is definitely addition by subtraction when it comes to some of this stuff.

00:46:29.927 --> 00:46:30.228
Okay.

00:46:30.978 --> 00:46:43.007
So one of the things I would, I would say, and I wanted to cover this point, and I'm sorry, I'm gonna cover this point again, is that when you talk about development of your game, then.

00:46:43.443 --> 00:46:54.512
Trying to quote unquote, change your swing, learn a tip from YouTube, whatever, da da da, da, da, all over and over and over again.

00:46:54.753 --> 00:46:55.773
Guess what that does?

00:46:56.072 --> 00:46:57.512
It sets us back in time.

00:46:57.512 --> 00:46:59.402
Every time, pretty much.

00:46:59.539 --> 00:47:00.028
correct.

00:47:00.063 --> 00:47:02.373
Maybe not every time, but a lot of the times, right?

00:47:02.643 --> 00:47:05.943
So then we're trying something we have no idea of its context.

00:47:05.943 --> 00:47:06.572
Is it gonna help me?

00:47:06.572 --> 00:47:07.293
Is it gonna hurt me?

00:47:07.443 --> 00:47:10.532
All I know is I keep muddling up my process, right?

00:47:10.983 --> 00:47:18.182
So what we wanna do is say in that process that Robbie and I just doled out, how do I know what I need to work on and what I need to do?

00:47:18.362 --> 00:47:22.833
What's not that answer you're not gonna find on the latest TikTok?

00:47:22.952 --> 00:47:24.152
Um, whatever.

00:47:24.498 --> 00:47:28.128
32nd tip video, it's likely not lying in there.

00:47:28.487 --> 00:47:32.478
What you need to do is say, I need to study this and understand, right?

00:47:32.478 --> 00:47:37.547
I can find some understanding on my own, or I need to find a coach that can help me find my understanding.

00:47:37.907 --> 00:47:39.827
And so when I say, how bad do you want it?

00:47:40.177 --> 00:47:43.597
Yeah, coaching can be an investment, right?

00:47:43.603 --> 00:47:44.184
For sure.

00:47:44.288 --> 00:47:47.047
I think that you have to, it's an investment in time.

00:47:47.318 --> 00:47:50.918
It's an investment in, then follow up practice, it's an investment in money.

00:47:51.097 --> 00:47:53.108
All those resources are limited, right?

00:47:53.617 --> 00:47:57.277
So time, energy, money, all three of those, if I'm taking lessons.

00:47:57.697 --> 00:48:05.527
But the point is that person should set you into this process pretty quickly and say, Hey, here's where we are.

00:48:05.978 --> 00:48:07.027
Here's your next step.

00:48:07.027 --> 00:48:13.958
Here's the big picture, and let's work on this one thing, and I'm gonna give you some things to do in your time that's limited to work on it.

00:48:13.958 --> 00:48:18.188
So a lot of what I do with students is I'm just asking them, how much time do we have?

00:48:18.307 --> 00:48:20.467
Like this is in the beginning, what's your practice?

00:48:20.648 --> 00:48:21.458
How much time do you have?

00:48:21.487 --> 00:48:22.447
Do you have moment?

00:48:23.077 --> 00:48:23.228
Yeah.

00:48:23.228 --> 00:48:24.007
What are your constraints?

00:48:24.007 --> 00:48:25.088
Do you have an at home setup?

00:48:25.358 --> 00:48:28.268
Do you, you know, how's the body, there's a con constraint as well.

00:48:28.507 --> 00:48:29.827
How bad do I want it?

00:48:29.887 --> 00:48:30.338
Right?

00:48:30.998 --> 00:48:32.257
Am I willing.

00:48:32.748 --> 00:48:34.097
To do something I've never done.

00:48:34.188 --> 00:48:38.628
Am I gonna allocate time and resources in a way that are gonna help me improve?

00:48:38.807 --> 00:48:45.137
And I think that that is a step that it's just, it's just right there.

00:48:45.347 --> 00:48:46.217
It's right there.

00:48:46.818 --> 00:48:51.288
And we all know we need to do it when it comes to wellness, and we know we need to do it when it comes to a lot of things.

00:48:51.827 --> 00:48:55.728
But it's like taking that step, getting outside of our comfort zone and saying, you know what?

00:48:56.327 --> 00:48:59.088
Like I don't have a swing coach, but I'm gonna go, what?

00:48:59.208 --> 00:49:00.288
I'm gonna try to find one.

00:49:00.768 --> 00:49:01.097
Right.

00:49:01.637 --> 00:49:11.117
Um, and I think that that's a huge deal because just telling you to practice more, you can use some of the tips that we give you and have

00:49:11.309 --> 00:49:11.668
Time

00:49:11.748 --> 00:49:12.648
fruitful practice.

00:49:12.648 --> 00:49:13.338
There's no question,

00:49:13.349 --> 00:49:16.829
yeah, time is not a good predictor of quality of practice

00:49:18.797 --> 00:49:19.128
right.

00:49:19.427 --> 00:49:21.632
Or improvement in any way, shape, or form it.

00:49:21.648 --> 00:49:23.688
It could actually set you back the other direction.

00:49:24.228 --> 00:49:25.338
But the point is, I.

00:49:26.568 --> 00:49:30.827
If you're gonna find time, you gotta have, you gotta have someone helping, in my opinion.

00:49:31.188 --> 00:49:40.007
I mean, if, if John Rahm is on the range right now at Augusta with his coach, Dave Phillips, then you know, you and I probably need a coach too.

00:49:40.338 --> 00:49:43.277
And so at least to help us in those moments, right?

00:49:43.277 --> 00:49:50.657
Those relationships are important too, to, um, to build and, and, and guide us on our way.

00:49:51.077 --> 00:49:57.197
So I'm a believer I don't have to sell anybody on golf lessons, like, you know, you know what I mean?

00:49:57.197 --> 00:49:58.547
Like, I'm not, I don't do that.

00:49:58.967 --> 00:50:05.117
But I will say that, you know, what I do say is in relationships are important, right?

00:50:05.117 --> 00:50:10.967
And those, and if I could help someone understand the process and be their guide on the way, that's all I ever want.

00:50:10.967 --> 00:50:14.027
It's really fun for me to be on the ride with them, so to speak.

00:50:14.027 --> 00:50:15.438
So, um.

00:50:16.592 --> 00:50:28.503
That mo that part of it is, is I think the trickiest part, like what we just described, is like, find the resources, allocate them, plan your life.

00:50:28.503 --> 00:50:30.242
How bad do you want it?

00:50:30.302 --> 00:50:30.753
Right.

00:50:31.202 --> 00:50:33.333
And what you don't wanna do.

00:50:33.362 --> 00:50:35.672
You, you gotta sit down and prioritize a little bit.

00:50:35.672 --> 00:50:36.963
And I had to do this right.

00:50:37.382 --> 00:50:40.233
I'm not gonna sacrifice my time with my children or my wife.

00:50:40.623 --> 00:50:41.402
That's not happening.

00:50:41.643 --> 00:50:41.972
Right.

00:50:42.483 --> 00:50:46.322
I can't necessarily work less.

00:50:46.322 --> 00:50:50.012
I could maybe be a little smarter about the hours and try to figure out how that all works.

00:50:50.012 --> 00:50:55.443
Get, maybe if I needed time in the morning to exercise, I could go in later a couple days and just stay later, you know, that kind of thing.

00:50:55.833 --> 00:50:57.483
But I had to sit down and plan all this out.

00:50:57.632 --> 00:50:57.813
Right.

00:50:57.813 --> 00:51:01.083
I just had to do it and put it in a schedule and say this is what I'm doing.

00:51:01.233 --> 00:51:01.563
Right.

00:51:02.003 --> 00:51:02.224
So

00:51:03.632 --> 00:51:11.282
when it comes to golf and you're coaching with people, Robbie, do you feel like, do you spend a lot of time in this moment, like trying to help people construct.

00:51:12.438 --> 00:51:14.688
Sort of the process of their improvement.

00:51:15.239 --> 00:51:15.568
for sure.

00:51:15.688 --> 00:51:15.929
Yeah.

00:51:16.048 --> 00:51:20.878
We start with, um, start with kind of the, the end goal in mind.

00:51:20.878 --> 00:51:29.759
And, and by that I mean like from a, from a, how you're doing this standpoint, right?

00:51:30.568 --> 00:51:34.349
lot of times it's like, Hey, like golf is not fun for me right now.

00:51:34.349 --> 00:51:35.878
I want it to be more fun.

00:51:35.878 --> 00:51:37.168
Can you help me make it fun?

00:51:37.168 --> 00:51:38.938
So I want to come out and do it kind of thing.

00:51:38.938 --> 00:51:39.268
It's like.

00:51:39.554 --> 00:51:48.733
I don't really care what your stats are, if we're always off time, if we are always off task.

00:51:48.733 --> 00:52:01.034
So I, again, I, I always tend to start with that because I mean, I'm, I'm a huge believer that we play our best when we're having fun, So I get people to, to understand that piece first.

00:52:01.034 --> 00:52:07.184
And then once you're able to check that box pretty consistently, and, um, Dr.

00:52:07.184 --> 00:52:17.353
Pryor said again, there's, he, he hasn't had someone in a, in a good while submit a, uh, a scorecard that's been a hundred percent on time and on task, right?

00:52:18.434 --> 00:52:19.963
I think 80 percent's great.

00:52:21.463 --> 00:52:35.623
if you can get up to, you know, 80 ish percent of your round on time and on task, you're gonna be having a good time and you're also gonna be aware of what's happening, So if you're aware of what's happening, then we can say, okay, well, what could we do?

00:52:36.688 --> 00:52:41.818
What would be the most efficient allocation of time to get your score moving in the positive direction?

00:52:41.818 --> 00:52:46.918
And that's where we would start to look at stats of like, okay, you know, what's, what's the missing link here?

00:52:46.949 --> 00:52:48.719
Is it off the t?

00:52:48.748 --> 00:52:50.009
Is it approach to green?

00:52:50.009 --> 00:52:54.748
Is it short game putting for, for the level of golfer that you're at to get to the next level?

00:52:54.778 --> 00:52:55.648
Where do we need to be?

00:52:56.278 --> 00:52:56.608
Right?

00:52:56.608 --> 00:53:05.489
And then to eventually get there, like we've said many times, it's gonna be some combination of scoring, strategy, shot, process, skill, and swing, right?

00:53:05.489 --> 00:53:12.358
So it's a matter of, typically if you're on the earlier side of that learning curve, you're gonna start with swing stuff first and kind of work your way up.

00:53:13.409 --> 00:53:20.009
if I'm working with a college player, I typically start at the top, And then swing is the very, very last thing that I would do with them.

00:53:20.938 --> 00:53:32.099
but it's always gonna be a matter of, of looking at this thing objectively, getting them to, um, assess using facts, um, nonjudgments, right?

00:53:32.099 --> 00:53:34.349
And then starting to teach them what actual.

00:53:34.648 --> 00:53:40.739
Training looks like it's not creating an environment that is the easiest for you to perform in.

00:53:41.639 --> 00:53:41.878
Right?

00:53:41.878 --> 00:53:48.358
So a lot of people have the perception that, okay, if I perform well in practice, that means that I'm learning, that means I'm getting better.

00:53:48.358 --> 00:54:05.489
So they will organize their entire environment make the performance as good as possible, which taking away all the spacing, all the variability, having the lowest challenge point humanly possible, So getting them to understand, okay, well we actually wanna stretch our capacity.

00:54:05.489 --> 00:54:18.449
We want to get ourselves just to that, you know, like 50 50 success failure rate, don't wanna stay at like 80, 90% where it feels great, or it's like going out and, and having ice cream, right?

00:54:18.449 --> 00:54:19.949
It, it tastes great.

00:54:20.009 --> 00:54:22.438
It's not the greatest for you kind of thing, right?

00:54:22.918 --> 00:54:25.648
Um, so there's a lot of that education too.

00:54:26.309 --> 00:54:26.849
Um.

00:54:27.869 --> 00:54:32.369
And that's, and that's pretty much, I mean, I do a lot of concept each, like education.

00:54:32.369 --> 00:54:44.278
It's not a whole lot of like, okay, you're gonna spend five minutes doing this and then five minutes doing that, and you're gonna do this for three days a week, and you're gonna like, I just don't think that, I don't think that's sustainable.

00:54:44.458 --> 00:54:54.869
Now, if it's, if it's organic to the individual, if I give them these concepts and if then they come to me and be like, okay, this is what I'm gonna do based off of my life, then I'm be like, okay, great.

00:54:54.869 --> 00:54:58.108
Now let's take that time and then let's start to organize that the way we want.

00:54:58.108 --> 00:54:58.378
But,

00:54:58.922 --> 00:54:59.012
Mm-hmm.

00:54:59.398 --> 00:55:06.148
I, I teach them concepts like when you're gonna come out to the range off of what you're trying to do, where could you spend your time?

00:55:06.179 --> 00:55:07.679
Well, how could you do this?

00:55:08.458 --> 00:55:13.469
That's typically how I like to, and whether it be right or wrong, um, that's kind of how I've, I've typically done it.

00:55:14.943 --> 00:55:20.702
Yeah, I think that the, um, me as a older, you know, you're what, 30 turn 30 this year, right?

00:55:20.702 --> 00:55:21.452
So you're 30.

00:55:21.963 --> 00:55:26.643
Um, I'm, I'm an elderly 40, you know, in my late forties.

00:55:27.003 --> 00:55:31.503
And so, you know, with two, but you have a 2-year-old, I've got two in college.

00:55:31.563 --> 00:55:31.983
Right.

00:55:32.159 --> 00:55:32.579
Yep.

00:55:33.722 --> 00:55:47.733
I think when, when I, I, I sort of have lived through this crazy, crazy life period, which you're gonna get to, you know, like where it's like, you feel like you're in the weeds and you're just all over the place.

00:55:47.733 --> 00:55:53.913
And so I think that it's, it's people will come to me and be like, Hey, I gotta figure this out.

00:55:53.913 --> 00:55:59.583
I gotta figure out, like, and, and one of the things that I've heard someone say, which I think is really great is.

00:56:00.467 --> 00:56:03.677
What can I do the least amount that's gonna be the most effective?

00:56:05.297 --> 00:56:06.677
What can I do the least of?

00:56:06.797 --> 00:56:08.177
That's gonna be the most effective?

00:56:08.327 --> 00:56:10.398
And that's why I kind of go back to the process.

00:56:10.398 --> 00:56:13.518
Like when we're talking about what we're working on.

00:56:13.518 --> 00:56:17.838
Like if you go straight to swing change all the time, that is not the least amount.

00:56:18.257 --> 00:56:20.027
Uh, it's not, it's not the least amount.

00:56:20.807 --> 00:56:28.248
Um, if you are constantly trying, every swing tip you come across, that is not the least amount to be the most effective.

00:56:28.277 --> 00:56:34.518
It is not, it is actually the least efficient thing you could probably do, and least effective thing you could probably do.

00:56:34.998 --> 00:56:36.918
So what we're saying is don't do that.

00:56:37.518 --> 00:56:39.228
You've got limited everything.

00:56:39.768 --> 00:56:40.878
Figure out a better way.

00:56:41.088 --> 00:56:41.447
Right.

00:56:41.958 --> 00:56:42.407
Um.

00:56:43.217 --> 00:56:52.788
One of the things that I realized a few years ago is that with a lot of things, like I used to think in my mind, like, if I'm gonna do something, like that's, I play the guitar, right?

00:56:53.148 --> 00:56:53.927
Play the guitar.

00:56:53.927 --> 00:56:57.047
I love to read, I love to work out, I love golf.

00:56:57.047 --> 00:56:59.387
Like I got, uh, some things that I do, right?

00:56:59.898 --> 00:57:08.057
Um, and what I also, also, what I used to think in my mind all the time was, I need an hour.

00:57:08.057 --> 00:57:11.507
Like, I would, it would be like, I need an hour to figure that out, right?

00:57:11.838 --> 00:57:13.398
If I'm gonna work out, I need an hour.

00:57:13.518 --> 00:57:15.108
If I'm gonna practice, I need an hour.

00:57:15.347 --> 00:57:15.978
I don't know why.

00:57:15.978 --> 00:57:20.043
It's just, I think our mind is like, we're used to dividing everything up an hour blocks.

00:57:20.043 --> 00:57:21.498
I take a lesson, it's an hour.

00:57:21.827 --> 00:57:23.447
If I'm gonna practice guitar, it's an hour.

00:57:23.958 --> 00:57:25.788
Well, none of that's true, right?

00:57:26.177 --> 00:57:31.068
If you do a really good, efficient workout, you can be done in 15 minutes with, and do a lot of stuff, right?

00:57:31.547 --> 00:57:34.458
Go stretch for 15 minutes and tell me it wasn't effective.

00:57:34.967 --> 00:57:36.557
You're gonna feel better in 15 minutes.

00:57:36.583 --> 00:57:36.873
yeah,

00:57:37.697 --> 00:57:43.398
So what I'm saying is you can fit nooks and crannies a little bit, especially if you're kind of like a club member.

00:57:43.398 --> 00:57:44.867
Like that's helpful, right?

00:57:44.867 --> 00:57:53.987
If you're a country club member and you're around pickleball and tennis and the fitness center and the restaurants and the kids' activities, like you can find little nooks and crannies.

00:57:54.018 --> 00:58:10.068
I tell people, I tell the dads like, Hey, when you're, when you're picking your kid up from junior clinic on Wednesdays, just, just try to get there 15 minutes earlier or have little Johnny come over and get'em a, you know, get'em something to play with and you can hit balls for another 10 minutes at the end, right?

00:58:10.458 --> 00:58:17.777
Or when you're dropping your kids off for swim, team might go practice then, or tell your wife, I'll take him to swim team.

00:58:17.777 --> 00:58:17.958
Right?

00:58:18.557 --> 00:58:21.018
Then it's like you're doing a duty and you're.

00:58:21.407 --> 00:58:27.318
Practicing at the same time, or I'm gonna play pickleball, get there 15 minutes earlier and put practice your aim point.

00:58:27.677 --> 00:58:31.007
You know, like you can do, you can fit these little nooks and crannies in.

00:58:31.427 --> 00:58:34.668
Um, and those add up just like it does in exercise.

00:58:34.668 --> 00:58:35.297
It adds up.

00:58:36.137 --> 00:58:39.018
Speaking of aim point, Rob fails a little bit of an aside here.

00:58:39.438 --> 00:58:42.438
The AIM pointers are doing pretty well at the Masters, are they not?

00:58:42.514 --> 00:58:42.994
doing okay.

00:58:45.108 --> 00:58:46.188
I have a great story.

00:58:46.248 --> 00:58:54.347
I mean, it's interesting to me alone and maybe, maybe some of the listeners is, as the listener knows, if you've just tuned it in for the first time, if it happens to be you.

00:58:54.378 --> 00:58:54.858
A couple things.

00:58:54.858 --> 00:58:56.193
We've alluded to Dr.

00:58:56.193 --> 00:58:58.967
Raymond Pryor, we've interviewed him on the show.

00:58:58.967 --> 00:59:01.878
We did a, we did an episode, we kind of reflecting on that interview.

00:59:02.297 --> 00:59:04.427
Uh, golf Beneath the Surface is his book.

00:59:04.427 --> 00:59:05.237
He's brilliant.

00:59:05.717 --> 00:59:07.788
If you're interested, I'll link it in the show notes.

00:59:07.967 --> 00:59:10.907
So that's kinda, we're referring to the on time on task.

00:59:10.913 --> 00:59:13.668
Those, those references, um, are all Dr.

00:59:13.668 --> 00:59:16.307
Pryor, uh, and he's just awesome.

00:59:16.307 --> 00:59:21.318
So, um, those insights are great and we've also done a lot on Aim Point.

00:59:21.527 --> 00:59:24.137
Robbie's a great aim point instructor.

00:59:24.197 --> 00:59:26.538
I use it now and I'm just.

00:59:26.702 --> 00:59:29.702
I really floored with how well it works.

00:59:29.972 --> 00:59:33.182
So I played the other day and I texted Robbie like I, I couldn't believe it.

00:59:33.632 --> 00:59:39.663
Um, I was doing a playing lesson and I had a putt for par 6, 6, 6, 7 feet.

00:59:39.663 --> 00:59:41.583
I didn't measure it, but it was like that distance.

00:59:41.822 --> 00:59:45.063
And I walked up and I'm like, this is a four now.

00:59:45.063 --> 00:59:50.822
A four is like four is four is a steep, you know, we, I, we don't have a lot of fours.

00:59:50.882 --> 00:59:51.333
Okay?

00:59:52.023 --> 00:59:57.152
4% is, that's, that's a, that's a pretty big slope that you're putting across.

00:59:57.902 --> 01:00:01.293
So the guy I was playing with also did our clinic

01:00:01.463 --> 01:00:01.753
yeah.

01:00:01.773 --> 01:00:02.762
and he uses it too.

01:00:02.762 --> 01:00:03.782
Loves it, by the way.

01:00:03.813 --> 01:00:04.353
Loves it.

01:00:04.353 --> 01:00:10.262
And really what I've noticed is with a lot of these guys that I teach, they kinda like, they learned it in the fall last year, if you remember.

01:00:10.563 --> 01:00:18.543
And in the winter they haven't played much or used it and they're not even doing it quite right and they're still getting great results, like pretty darn good results.

01:00:18.543 --> 01:00:19.233
We'll put it to you that way.

01:00:19.233 --> 01:00:25.382
So we were refining, I kind of refining is as we went and um, I stood out and I go, oh my gosh, that's a four.

01:00:26.027 --> 01:00:30.018
And then I second guessed it for a second and I'm like, Nope, it's a four.

01:00:30.887 --> 01:00:37.788
So that thing downhill right to left seven footer was probably eight.

01:00:37.818 --> 01:00:40.697
I was probably aiming 16 or 18 inches outside the hole.

01:00:41.418 --> 01:00:43.188
And I was like,'cause the greens were fast.

01:00:43.728 --> 01:00:46.637
And I was like, oh my gosh, just trust.

01:00:47.297 --> 01:00:49.757
And I hit that, put it, and it went right in the middle.

01:00:49.757 --> 01:00:51.137
And he was like, what?

01:00:51.137 --> 01:00:52.007
Are you serious?

01:00:52.007 --> 01:00:53.538
Like, we went and looked at it.

01:00:53.538 --> 01:00:57.918
There's like, there's no way in the world we'd have played that at 16 or 18 inches of break.

01:00:57.918 --> 01:00:58.728
There's no way.

01:00:59.148 --> 01:01:01.157
No way ever.

01:01:01.757 --> 01:01:10.217
And so aim point, you know, getting a bad rap, it slows everything down and all, it absolutely does not slow anything down if you do it the right way.

01:01:10.878 --> 01:01:14.777
So if you're watching the Masters, um, Justin Rose, he's a big aim point guy.

01:01:15.137 --> 01:01:17.148
Had a decent score today, Ludwig Oberg.

01:01:18.347 --> 01:01:18.648
Hmm.

01:01:19.083 --> 01:01:20.853
Big aim point guy had a great score today.

01:01:20.853 --> 01:01:23.943
Scotty Scheffler Caddy at least uses it and helps him read the green.

01:01:23.943 --> 01:01:30.873
So I think that, uh, you're seeing more cows playing great with, he's been a big defender of it recently, which is pretty cool to see.

01:01:31.262 --> 01:01:34.592
So, um, yeah, those top players, they're, they're aim point.

01:01:34.592 --> 01:01:36.963
They don't show it, they don't show it on the screen.

01:01:36.963 --> 01:01:37.202
But,

01:01:37.273 --> 01:01:37.724
don't always

01:01:37.862 --> 01:01:40.713
uh, it's pretty cool to see.

01:01:40.713 --> 01:01:47.523
Have you, have you followed some of the commentary, like the hateful commentary that's been going around about any point recently?

01:01:47.534 --> 01:01:48.704
My, my head's in sand.

01:01:50.793 --> 01:01:53.793
Yeah, it should be because it just, it just doesn't matter in my opinion.

01:01:53.793 --> 01:01:54.302
Like again,

01:01:54.344 --> 01:01:55.634
social media anymore, honestly.

01:01:56.619 --> 01:01:56.909
Yeah.

01:01:57.543 --> 01:01:57.902
Wow.

01:01:58.052 --> 01:02:02.043
I, yeah, I actually, there was like Wall Street Journal article.

01:02:02.418 --> 01:02:07.878
Which a lot of people sent me, I got like four emails one day and a couple texts like, did you see this Wall Street?

01:02:07.998 --> 01:02:11.148
And the Wall Street Journal article actually was really fair about it.

01:02:11.628 --> 01:02:17.958
Um, it was after that picture of the woman who was standing on like a one foot putt and everybody was losing their mind over it.

01:02:18.588 --> 01:02:20.657
Like, gimme a break, you know, like whatever.

01:02:21.197 --> 01:02:28.728
So, um, any point Green Reading Tech, again, if you're new to the show, green Reading Technique, Mark Sweeney, um, was on the show so you could go back.

01:02:28.728 --> 01:02:30.827
That's one of my favorite episodes.

01:02:30.827 --> 01:02:31.847
Very entertaining guy.

01:02:31.847 --> 01:02:32.568
Super sharp.

01:02:33.137 --> 01:02:38.117
Um, university of Virginia Guy, which I hadn't realized, you know?

01:02:38.268 --> 01:02:38.927
Did you know that?

01:02:39.588 --> 01:02:40.458
I just didn't know that.

01:02:40.637 --> 01:02:42.557
I guess I would've talked to him a little bit about that, but

01:02:42.568 --> 01:02:42.929
big,

01:02:43.007 --> 01:02:44.628
son goes to UVA and obviously

01:02:44.849 --> 01:02:45.119
Yeah.

01:02:45.557 --> 01:02:48.797
Robbie works at UVA, so the UV of course.

01:02:49.157 --> 01:02:53.088
So anyhow, how bad do you want anything else you add to.

01:02:54.137 --> 01:03:02.177
When you see students, and you and I are not this way, we're not SEC football guys, so we don't like grab people and ask'em how bad do they want it?

01:03:02.177 --> 01:03:03.797
Like, how bad do you want it?

01:03:03.858 --> 01:03:07.068
Like how bad, how much does this mean to you?

01:03:07.128 --> 01:03:08.027
We don't really do that.

01:03:08.088 --> 01:03:15.378
But anything else you see that people are doing and you're just like, man, why do we keep doing that?

01:03:16.157 --> 01:03:21.677
You're just, if you just did this other thing, it would be, it would be better.

01:03:21.748 --> 01:03:22.228
no.

01:03:22.318 --> 01:03:22.949
Yeah.

01:03:23.338 --> 01:03:23.518
No.

01:03:23.518 --> 01:03:24.478
I think we covered it.

01:03:24.557 --> 01:03:27.347
But there's many, there's many, there's many.

01:03:27.813 --> 01:03:28.594
How much time we got

01:03:28.668 --> 01:03:35.987
So in this week of the Masters, which I've been on record, I'll tell everybody, everybody will tell you.

01:03:36.407 --> 01:03:38.507
And, and obviously today is the end of the first round.

01:03:38.507 --> 01:03:39.168
We're recording.

01:03:39.168 --> 01:03:44.418
And Oberg played great, but I, that's been my pick since I watched that Cyborg play last year.

01:03:44.568 --> 01:03:48.557
O Oberg, he's bel, he's built for Augusta, right?

01:03:48.557 --> 01:03:48.797
Like.

01:03:50.088 --> 01:03:51.257
He's a machine.

01:03:51.257 --> 01:03:52.248
I don't think he's human.

01:03:52.307 --> 01:03:53.148
I don't think he's human.

01:03:53.568 --> 01:03:57.137
I think he's, he's from some other planet, but such a great player.

01:03:57.288 --> 01:04:00.768
Gosh, he's a good player and uh, it's fun to watch him play.

01:04:00.768 --> 01:04:05.807
And he's built for Augusta like just bombs it and hits a draw if he wants to.

01:04:05.807 --> 01:04:09.588
And Hess that any point, degree, the green's really well.

01:04:09.588 --> 01:04:12.467
So I think he's gonna be a force to reckon with.

01:04:12.467 --> 01:04:21.288
So we're gonna take the motivation from seeing the masters, we're gonna turn that into a disciplined approach to playing golf better.

01:04:21.288 --> 01:04:23.027
We're gonna focus on process.

01:04:23.327 --> 01:04:25.097
We're not gonna focus on results.

01:04:25.188 --> 01:04:26.867
We're gonna get a coach if we need it.

01:04:26.898 --> 01:04:39.318
And we're gonna allocate our time, energy, and re all of our resources towards planning out a way to play better golf to the full enjoyment for 2025.

01:04:40.307 --> 01:04:41.297
Does that sound pretty good, Rob?

01:04:41.297 --> 01:04:41.838
Fales?

01:04:44.012 --> 01:04:47.882
All right, so I think that wraps up the less important part of the show.

01:04:47.882 --> 01:04:53.853
Now, the most important part of the show, Rob, we talked last time about Dynasty.

01:04:54.452 --> 01:04:56.523
You had a di so this is fantasy football talk.

01:04:56.523 --> 01:04:58.382
Just for aside, just indulge us please.

01:04:58.393 --> 01:04:58.784
Nope.

01:04:58.813 --> 01:04:59.023
There

01:04:59.072 --> 01:05:01.472
You had a dynasty league draft start up,

01:05:01.753 --> 01:05:02.264
folks.

01:05:03.782 --> 01:05:10.143
super flex startup, uh, which means that the quarterback position's pretty much the most important.

01:05:10.143 --> 01:05:11.373
You had the number one pick.

01:05:11.672 --> 01:05:14.132
You were gonna pick the Redskins quarterback.

01:05:14.132 --> 01:05:15.152
Did you go ahead

01:05:15.193 --> 01:05:15.764
I did.

01:05:15.992 --> 01:05:16.922
and take our guy?

01:05:17.023 --> 01:05:17.804
I got, Jayden

01:05:19.623 --> 01:05:20.373
You had to take him.

01:05:20.443 --> 01:05:20.713
had

01:05:20.822 --> 01:05:22.083
Uh, it's hard not to take em.

01:05:22.213 --> 01:05:22.483
he's

01:05:22.503 --> 01:05:23.222
hard not to take them.

01:05:23.702 --> 01:05:28.172
Where did, where did my guy, um, Ash Genti go on that drive?

01:05:29.264 --> 01:05:29.503
Yeah.

01:05:29.503 --> 01:05:42.853
So this was a cool draft because we actually picked, um, kickers as placeholders for our rookie picks, which is gonna be, um, after the draft is when we'll do the, uh, the actual supplemental rookie draft.

01:05:42.853 --> 01:05:48.373
But Ashton Gente went 2.8 in a startup.

01:05:48.492 --> 01:05:49.157
Way too late.

01:05:49.668 --> 01:05:50.387
Way too late.

01:05:51.284 --> 01:05:51.329
He

01:05:51.588 --> 01:05:52.608
Just write this down.

01:05:52.724 --> 01:05:54.733
just, he went just after Jamir Gibbs.

01:05:55.528 --> 01:05:56.909
he went after Bijan and Gibbs.

01:05:56.909 --> 01:05:59.489
I would put him, I would've put him RB three right now.

01:05:59.489 --> 01:06:02.789
Right behind Gibbs and or I mean, I don't know.

01:06:02.789 --> 01:06:03.088
Gibbs.

01:06:03.208 --> 01:06:03.329
I

01:06:03.347 --> 01:06:08.597
SA one still RB Saan Still RB one in this startup for now, in my opinion.

01:06:08.639 --> 01:06:09.298
a dynasty.

01:06:09.318 --> 01:06:09.467
Yeah.

01:06:10.472 --> 01:06:14.313
Yes, in a dynasty, just trust me, I've been doing Dynasty for many years.

01:06:14.822 --> 01:06:18.242
Saquon is gonna be great for at least three more years.

01:06:18.422 --> 01:06:19.262
Just trust me.

01:06:19.592 --> 01:06:21.032
When I did our dynasty Dr.

01:06:21.063 --> 01:06:21.663
Start up,

01:06:21.719 --> 01:06:22.409
what's happened

01:06:22.413 --> 01:06:25.112
I took a couple of players that everybody thought was washed.

01:06:25.112 --> 01:06:28.353
I took, I took LaShawn, McCoy and like the six round,

01:06:28.434 --> 01:06:28.724
Okay.

01:06:28.802 --> 01:06:32.012
I took, uh, Larry Fitzgerald in like the eighth round.

01:06:32.072 --> 01:06:33.063
Oh, they were old.

01:06:33.063 --> 01:06:34.052
They're this, that and the other.

01:06:34.322 --> 01:06:38.762
And they produced for like four straight years and they were awesome.

01:06:38.762 --> 01:06:42.572
And Saquon has no, no slowing down ahead of him.

01:06:42.873 --> 01:06:48.333
The Eagles have an absolutely outrageous offense that he's gonna produce in year, over year, over year.

01:06:48.333 --> 01:06:49.592
He's gonna be at least three years.

01:06:49.592 --> 01:06:49.983
Great.

01:06:50.103 --> 01:06:57.722
And he is absolutely the number one, um, fantasy dynasty startup guy in my opinion, for running back.

01:06:57.838 --> 01:06:58.018
That's

01:06:58.083 --> 01:06:59.072
Um, but

01:06:59.099 --> 01:07:02.969
I don't think I, yeah,

01:07:03.152 --> 01:07:04.563
Jamir Gibbs, are you kidding me?

01:07:04.563 --> 01:07:05.193
Jamir Gibb.

01:07:05.193 --> 01:07:05.793
He's fine.

01:07:05.793 --> 01:07:06.393
He's whatever.

01:07:06.393 --> 01:07:08.882
He's 200 pounds, like whatever.

01:07:09.362 --> 01:07:10.172
Gimme a break.

01:07:10.333 --> 01:07:10.684
Jamir

01:07:10.833 --> 01:07:11.612
went to Alabama.

01:07:11.612 --> 01:07:12.693
Those guys always fade.

01:07:12.838 --> 01:07:14.699
might be the RB one in Dynasty.

01:07:15.028 --> 01:07:15.509
I mean, when you

01:07:15.572 --> 01:07:16.202
I don't think so.

01:07:16.443 --> 01:07:17.132
No, I don't think so.

01:07:17.398 --> 01:07:28.168
I, I have Bijan Gibbs, uh, Genty, maybe in the same tier, and then next tier down would be Daon.

01:07:29.369 --> 01:07:30.568
And then,

01:07:30.663 --> 01:07:32.643
my gosh, you got so much to learn.

01:07:32.793 --> 01:07:33.393
Grasshop.

01:07:33.873 --> 01:07:34.952
You got a lot to learn here.

01:07:36.989 --> 01:07:37.438
but there's a

01:07:37.532 --> 01:07:40.713
Now if you said, oh yeah, Derrick Henry should go in the 10.

01:07:40.802 --> 01:07:41.793
Yeah, well that makes sense.

01:07:41.793 --> 01:07:42.873
Derrick Henry might have one.

01:07:42.932 --> 01:07:45.092
He might have zero Good years left, right?

01:07:45.362 --> 01:07:46.382
He had a great year last year.

01:07:46.382 --> 01:07:47.103
We don't know.

01:07:47.309 --> 01:07:47.579
No, I

01:07:47.672 --> 01:07:50.282
Saquon is not anywhere close to the end of his.

01:07:50.489 --> 01:07:50.818
Yeah.

01:07:51.333 --> 01:07:57.693
He has nowhere close to the end of this career, and you're going to just, we'll revisit this in three years and we'll see who's done better.

01:07:57.693 --> 01:07:58.862
Jamir Gibbs or Saquon.

01:07:58.862 --> 01:08:02.132
We'll see how that, how that play and be John's in a terrible offense.

01:08:02.132 --> 01:08:06.182
So he, he had good year, but can you trust the Falcons year after year?

01:08:06.512 --> 01:08:07.443
I'm not sure you can.

01:08:07.833 --> 01:08:08.432
So we'll see.

01:08:08.492 --> 01:08:09.813
We'll see how that all plays out.

01:08:10.034 --> 01:08:14.833
take, I'll take Jamir three year, uh, total points.

01:08:14.954 --> 01:08:15.824
I'll take Gibbs.

01:08:15.824 --> 01:08:16.934
You take Barkley.

01:08:17.953 --> 01:08:18.493
Let's do it.

01:08:18.493 --> 01:08:19.064
Let's, let's, let's

01:08:19.148 --> 01:08:20.837
Done, done.

01:08:21.092 --> 01:08:26.222
DUN Done and thus ends our fantasy Football minute.

01:08:27.163 --> 01:08:28.033
We're gonna come out with a

01:08:28.203 --> 01:08:29.823
I hope you have all have enjoyed

01:08:29.889 --> 01:08:30.109
Yep.

01:08:30.483 --> 01:08:32.283
the Golf Intervention Podcast.

01:08:32.882 --> 01:08:36.842
There may be a fantasy football spinoff, but I think my wife's gonna shut that idea down.

01:08:38.523 --> 01:08:39.573
You don't have time for that.

01:08:39.974 --> 01:08:40.394
Yep.

01:08:40.563 --> 01:08:42.722
see as fantasy football season approaches.

01:08:42.722 --> 01:08:44.733
But thank you for tuning in.

01:08:44.788 --> 01:08:49.679
should make that a, uh, the last 10 minutes of every podcast should be about fantasy football.

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I, I, I

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We'll see, we'll see.

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make that a, make that a tradition.

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it's, I think it's fun for the listener to be understanding that we are humans that have other interests other than golf, right?

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So it is pretty cool.

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Thank you for tuning in to another episode of the Golf Intervention Podcast.

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You know, it can always send us questions.

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We have a Gmail or we have a website, or we have a substack, and any one of those you can reach out to us or our Instagram and uh, and send us a question and we'll try to address it on the show.

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We love question and answer episodes, so maybe, maybe the next one, we'll do one of those.

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Outside of that, I have nothing left to say.

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Hope you all are motivated and therefore gonna be disciplined to improve your game in 2025.

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Have a great night everybody.