Feb. 12, 2026

EP 52: The Biggest Questions in Golf Performance Improvement — Asked and Answered. The Golf Intervention 2.0

EP 52: The Biggest Questions in Golf Performance Improvement — Asked and Answered. The Golf Intervention 2.0

Send a text Episode Summary In this launch of Golf Intervention 2.0, we answer the biggest questions golfers ask about getting better. We define the only 3 areas for improvement—strategy, skill, and swing. This episode sets the framework for smarter improvement built on data, process, and clarity. In This Episode 1. Strategy, Skill, and Swing We break down what truly drives performance: Strategy Skill Swing If you want to lower scores faster, you need the right order. 2....

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Episode Summary

In this launch of Golf Intervention 2.0, we answer the biggest questions golfers ask about getting better. We define the only 3 areas for improvement—strategy, skill, and swing. 

This episode sets the framework for smarter improvement built on data, process, and clarity.

In This Episode

1. Strategy, Skill, and Swing
We break down what truly drives performance:

  • Strategy 
  • Skill 
  • Swing 

If you want to lower scores faster, you need the right order.

2. The Golf Intervention 2.0 Format
The show is evolving:

  • More structured series
  • Clear improvement frameworks
  • Lots of questions and answers

3. Is Equipment a Skill Issue?
 

4. What Should You Be Working On?



 

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And welcome back to the Golf Intervention Podcast.

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glad you're tuning in with us this evening.

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I'm here in Richmond, Virginia, waiting on the impending snow and ice storm, Snowmageddon, as they call it, don't they name storms?

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I was thinking of this on my way home.

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I thought they named storms, but I haven't heard a name for this

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Hmm.

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We need to, we need to come up with a name for this storm.

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What is it gonna be?

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it.

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can't

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it.

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No, it's gotta have a name, right?

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Like a, like, you know, like a legit name.

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they female It's like Annabelle.

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Annabelle What?

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It's like a vicious blizzard called Annabelle.

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I don't know.

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I don't know if there's a name for this but I do know this.

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I'm hoping that we can get this episode out.

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If people are stuck at home, they can listen to it.

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that's what I

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Yeah.

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can do.

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So we are so glad to be back.

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with you.

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an episode out, um, a couple weeks ago detailing why we hadn't put some out, but promising and here we are back at it again are gonna use tonight's episode to introduce, know, what we've ta taken time to reflect on a little bit about what we've liked, about what we've done how we're gonna format it forward future episodes of the golf intervention.

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I think also.

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Covering things that we think we know about the golf intervention, things that are sort of the, the foundational of

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Yeah.

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to convey to the listener.

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Um, As a, been a, it's been a great study for me kinda really go through teaching principles and things that we've done

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Yeah.

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Yeah.

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25 years of teaching golf and, um.

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why it works and why it doesn't and what's important and what isn't.

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And being on the ride with my friend

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my friend

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has been really fun.

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So I'm ready for, I don't know, we've put episodes.

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I'm ready for 50 more.

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Rob, we were talking

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do it.

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we were talking about

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Talking about how

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we're going to

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gonna,

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kind of next,

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yes.

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chapter, it, of the golf

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A hundred percent.

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so through kind of what we were talking about, what we're

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Yes.

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excited for.

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Yeah.

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So we have absolutely listened to our listeners, you all, and what you all have enjoyed the most about the way that we've done it in the past.

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So we are gonna be bringing back episode series, right?

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This is one of the big things that you all really enjoy, is like, okay, we're gonna do.

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A short game series, a long game series A, you know, like have it be a focused topic that we really delve into deeply over the course of three to four episodes.

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So we're starting with basically like four episode series is gonna be the, the starting point.

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Some might be five, some might be three.

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Um, but within that, right, each episode is gonna have the following things that you, the listener have said that you enjoy.

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Uh, discussions on levels 1, 2, 3, and four golfers, right?

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So one of the big things that differentiates us is that we start with a context first, who you are as a golfer.

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Are you a level one golfer shooting higher than 88 on average?

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Are you a level two golfer shooting between 88 and 76 on average, are you a level three golfer?

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Basically like 76 down to like.

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72 or are you a level four like Tour Pro, right?

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Shooting below par on average.

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So based off of who you are, what are the essential elements to the main three things that we can do to improve, which we call strategy, skill, and swing, right?

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So each episode is gonna have a level 1, 2, 3, or four discussion on strategy or skill or swing.

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And then we'll fi finally for that fourth episode.

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Uh, we're gonna hope to bring as many guest interviews as possible, so depending on the series that we have, we're gonna hope to bring in an expert, um, pertaining to that series title.

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Alright.

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Um, aside from that, each episode is gonna have, uh, one of the most popular things that we have introduced is the lessons from our lessons, right?

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This is where we tell a story about.

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Since the last time we recorded to now a lesson that we had, obviously keeping anonymous if they prefer, um, about something that, uh, that we think would be valuable for you all to hear as a listener, right?

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So lessons from our lessons was a huge hit and we're gonna keep that coming for you.

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And then finally, a mailbag, right?

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So submitting questions that either Eric and I hear on the lesson T'cause we get literally, I don't know how many questions every single day we get.

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But from time to time we will like text each other and say like, here, here's a question that I got from a student today, I think would be, uh, great to have on the podcast.

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This can also be questions that you all submit to us, right?

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We have our substack, we have our email addresses, and many of y'all have our, our have our phone numbers, right?

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You can Instagram, right?

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Any way that you want to get in touch with us and ask us questions you want us to cover on the podcast.

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We are gonna spend that dedicated time to do that.

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Um, so those are really the main three main aspects of what we're calling like TGI 2.0.

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Again, we're gonna have lesson series.

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Each episode is gonna have a level 1, 2, 3, 4 discussion on strategy, skill, and swing.

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Uh, we're gonna have one episode that is an interview with, uh, again, lessons from our lessons and, uh, and some mail back time.

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So, should be a lot of fun.

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We're really excited about it.

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This, it's gonna be like the best version of us, uh, that we've, we've been able to put out so far.

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So we're really excited for it, for sure.

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helps the listener organize their.

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Thoughts about how to improve and that's where, that's where we

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where we started

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there's so much stuff out there, there's so much the ethos, so to speak, about performance and it's hard to sort through it.

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know, we're mailbag section and I'll, I will send you, things I see on different like forums.

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Oh yeah.

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And so I think that.

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You know, someone will, will ask a a forum online about like, should I play a 12 degree driver question mark?

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And there's so much lacking to that question,

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Yep.

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And so and so then some of the answers that come back mean, they're just wild, right?

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And

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Mm-hmm.

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what we're trying to do is help make a clear and way to sift through.

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What really matters,

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Yeah.

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the big things that I think that we do on this show is sort it out and you mentioned

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You mentioned

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a bigger thing than, and so I want to kind of highlight it, is we discuss which can improve your golf game, right?

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Strategy, and swing.

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Now, would contend they're

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That they're

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in probably the order of most effectiveness.

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And least in that order.

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And I would say

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Yes.

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that everything you see and read on the all about the golf swing.

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Swing And yep.

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A hundred percent.

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it takes out skill or,'cause I just don't think people understand

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They don't.

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even people that teach golf donors.

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So this is one of the things that, as I mentor which I do as part of my job just at the country club Plus with with other local pros in the area or in the middle Atlantic.

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It's like trying to convey that conversation like, know, you can't see

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Yeah.

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eng golf through the lens of swing.

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It just can't work that way.

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to be able to understand skill.

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You have to be able to understand strategy, you have to be able to communicate it.

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And I think on our show, we work really, really hard to do that.

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Now what I would say is don't misinterpret that for us saying.

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Swing doesn't matter.

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'cause swing, absolutely 100% matters.

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And I teach swing and Rob teaches swing single day.

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Right.

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But

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Yeah.

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more to developing your game sort of what you call the geometry of the swing.

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Mm-hmm.

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And although that is very important, so this is not,

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Not

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just.

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just,

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You know, swing your swing and then if you know, if you're you'll shoot better scores.

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Or, you know, if you, if you pick conservative targets for strategy, you'll be the best version of yourself.

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Like

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Mm-hmm.

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And that's what we're trying to convey with this show.

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That's why we put it out.

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I'm most proud of too, which I wanna bring up just for a second, I was looking at the year end, um, podcasting charts like worldwide charts.

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And we're still at the golf intervention are little lowly independent.

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We're still in the top 10% of most listened to podcasts in the world out of like

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That's wild.

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And it's funny

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because

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you and

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you and I neither want

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media presence at basically

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not much.

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Yep.

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we don't like it.

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We don't use it.

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really.

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I mean, very little.

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Maybe that, maybe we will get into that a little bit more.

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But what we've

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Yeah, we've been talking about that.

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Yeah.

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I think that putting

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just really, really

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solid, helpful, you know,

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Yeah.

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That's.

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beatty information is what we're about.

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And

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That's.

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all we're trying to do.

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you could

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Yeah.

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if you've been through the catalog.

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That's all promote so you, as the listener, we just thank you for tuning in and if you share this with your friends or share it on your social media, like, Hey, y'all should check this out.

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If you play golf, that's really helpful.

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But at the end of the day, we don't even do it for that.

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Like we don't make money off this.

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No,

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just a

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no.

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we lose money on it.

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Uh, we're just a

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No, we're definitely not in the black.

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just a couple of guys like To, you know, like, we're up late tonight after the kids are in bed.

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Doing a show because we, we think that we're helping, So, this is what we're doing.

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So, um, going back

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Going back to

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skill, and swing, in that invasive, most easily.

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Um, importantly effective for your game.

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How do you

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How do you feel like

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students have absorbed that this past and what have

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what have you seen as far as like, is there any

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man, they're really getting that, or This person's

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yeah.

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Yeah, I think the, a couple aha moments, I think for, for me personally, kind as I'm, as I've been working through this is understanding that from the strategy aspect, it really is.

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You can think of it as more of like the conscious prediction, right?

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So like, what can you say out loud?

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What can you say in words to other people?

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So like if I'm playing golf and I'm maybe doing a playing lesson with someone else.

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Oftentimes I'll have them think out loud, like as they're preparing for the shot.

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So strategy is, as we define it, is really that very conscious prediction of like, Hey, what are you trying to do and how are you trying to do it right?

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Which has to deal a lot with your decision tree.

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So like your priorities for this given shot, as well as your shot process in terms of how you're predicting the lie, the slope and the wind are gonna influence the golf ball.

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Right, because as you're going through that, you can make a balance sheet, if you will.

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Like, hey, here's the, here's the real yardage.

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Right?

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Well, I'm gonna, I'm be downhill, so it's gonna subtract and then, oh, well I'm into the wind.

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I'm gonna add, so like you're playing this, this prediction game of like, how is the environment gonna influence my golf ball?

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The skill is more the subconscious prediction.

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It's not the very, things that you can.

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Put into words, it's the very micro elements of what is creating the ball flight, the strike that you're noticing.

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Right.

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And getting golfers.

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And this is something that we both are trying to get better at communicating and getting golfers to understand that it's a prediction, it's a subconscious prediction.

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You don't know where the club sweet, like where the sweet spot is going to be in space when it gets down around the golf ball.

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Right.

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You're also making a subconscious prediction about where the ball is in space too.

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Like when the ball's in the rough and it's sitting way up or sitting way down,, and the ball's above your feet a little bit, ball's below your feet.

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You're making these subconscious predictions about where the ball is, where the bottom of your swing is, where the club face the path is gonna be.

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The speed of the club head, what, how much it's, it's gonna have when it hits the ball,.

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You cannot control this stuff.

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So you have to have strategies in place.

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I say strategies, but we're talking about skill here.

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Um, you have to have processes in place that intentionally build and improve your prediction, that subconscious prediction process, right?

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So understanding that I think is just so huge.

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Because when I'm talking about like the aha moment, it's when golfers can say.

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Alright.

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I produced the skill that I wanted, I just made the wrong prediction, right?

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So I, like, I did everything I was trying to do and I just predicted it incorrectly.

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Right?

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A good example would be putting right, so you, you gave it your intended speed.

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You did exactly what you were trying to do from a skill standpoint.

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But then the golf ball rolls way too far, way too short.

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And that's different.

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That's way different than not producing your intended speed, right?

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So the first question is, did you produce your intended speed?

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And if so, then you can take a look at the outcomes, right?

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And so it's such a game of awareness and start such a game of, um.

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I guess just a lot of like experience really to be able to, to decipher between the two.

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Like when, when was it really a prediction error versus when was it just an execution error?

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You didn't produce what you were trying to do.

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Right.

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I think, I think distinguishing between those I think is, is so huge when it comes to skill and then swing, right?

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Detaching the outcome and what the ball's doing from your swing and really.

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Kind of putting the swing in its place.

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Like what are the elements of the swing that are super critical?, Number one, is it hurting your body?

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Is it allowing you to play number one?

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Number two is, is it efficient?

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Meaning, are you getting a lot of bang for your buck?

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Number three is, is it effective in the sense that it's.

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Allowing you to be skillful.

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And this is why when we do a lot of the skill training that we're gonna talk about, we're, we're basically treating this like a, uh, if you haven't listened to our podcast before, as we kind of move into this new phase, this is kind of some of the underlying information you need to know.

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Because as we start to do this skill training, a lot of it being differential training of like, Hey, can you explore the, the ranges of these skills?

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Well, what that's also doing is that's giving you a really good sense of, is your swing.

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In the ballpark from a geometry standpoint or not, right?

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Because I can guarantee, like if you can access the heel in the toe with relatively similar ease, if you can access the bottom of the face, top of the face, if you can access face close to the path, face, open the path.

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And if you can produce your intended speed, it's like, okay, like your, your swing is in the ballpark.

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You're allowing yourself, you're, you're getting from your swing, from a geometry standpoint.

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What you need to get from it.

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If we change geometry in terms of a golf swing, it's gonna be to bias the skills differently, not to create a specific skill just to bias the skills differently.

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Right.

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And that's where Eric, you're nodding your head, right?

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So you could probably think of times where golfers made a swing that would bias us the skill in the way that you and I want them to.

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But it didn't mean like all of the skills lined up for that particular shot.

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And they're like, the ball doesn't do what they want.

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And the golfer thinks like, oh, that was all, everything.

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There was terrible.

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Like, hold on.

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No.

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Like you made the swing that you wanted, one of these skills was a little bit outta place.

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Right.

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So there's a reason why we say there is strategy, there is skill, and then there is swing.

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Yeah, because while they, they do play off of one another and they do relate to each other for sure.

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I don't know how many swing issues are created by poor strategy, probably a ton.

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Right.

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So they do, they do play off of each other.

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But from a golfer standpoint, in terms of your training them, you probably need to be keeping them separate And understand that they are separate.

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And I think that Swing is what you create.

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Skill, right?

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Yes.

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Skill mostly happens in this time interval.

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That's like, I mean, think about the time interval of the club hitting the ball and that's

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Yes.

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produced, right?

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So to

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Yeah.

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Right.

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You're not gonna make a swing that's anything,

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Mm.

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to do is create a vessel through which

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Yes.

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can be achieved and, and, and then in line with your goals, right?

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So

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Yeah.

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where you're always trying to make sure what I'm doing is in line with my goal.

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One I'm is in line with my goals.

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Yep.

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we don't have to just jump to swing to, I would say, in the season.

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A lot of what I'm working on with golf, especially competent golfers, is skill stuff, skill

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Mm-hmm.

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A little

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Agreed.

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that, you know, sometimes

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But it's probably very targeted swing stuff.

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Like, it's probably very like, Hey.

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To create this different skill.

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Let's explore this aspect of the swing and let's just see if it gives you that nice little, short term bump in accessing the skill that you want.

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Right?

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who's an amateur new new student of mine in the fall, he came to me and the swing kind of coming off injury.

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And anyway, the swing wasn't where he wanted it to be, and so therefore he wasn't producing the shots that he needed to produce in the

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Yeah,

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And so.

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so

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I'm like, okay.

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So he, me to look at his equipment first, kind of, that was part of the

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part of the story

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the biggest Part of the story.

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Part of the story is actually,

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can you you're making, you need to produce with the ski, you know, through the skill.

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And the answer

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And the answer was no.

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But it was also

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in, four weeks I'm trying to qualify for a

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mm-hmm.

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I got this stuff coming up.

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So what did we do?

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We mainly.

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basically made the best we

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Yeah.

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Right the short and then in the long with we had to go for swing change because he, to produce speed and to produce clubface, you know, clubface delivery, I should say.

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Not control.

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I hate clubface control as a terminology,

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hate the word control.

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I'm, I'm, my goal is to never say control in a lesson if I can help it.

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You ain't controlling Jack.

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ain't no controls there, brother.

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But what you

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Yeah.

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can do is

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deliver

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deliver

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as best you can in

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predict.

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Yeah.

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type of

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Yeah.

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right?

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And that, and was something that like, he knew

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Mm-hmm.

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Very, very growth minded, very whatever.

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swing change, he's gained a bunch of of distance, bunch of clubface,

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Mm-hmm.

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delivery stuff that's improved.

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Um, can hit the ball both ways now.

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So like all the stuff that you were just talking about, like so he can control, he can have, he has access to changing trajectories to more speed, to higher launch, to lower launch, to curbing the ball both ways.

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When basically we went and I was like, we've gotta hit a medium draw on every shot.

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Like, that's what we have, that's what we can predict.

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That's what we're playing for now.

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And then

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Yeah.

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gonna work on it from there.

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And

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Yeah,

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and the game is really like that's a visual.

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from the lesson kind of bigger picture, right?

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Like this

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yeah.

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months of like very intense work on the swing, like per week, like working at it.

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And when you take that on, even as a like spectacular athlete, like this gentleman is, it is work to change your swing, right?

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Hmm.

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not that it should be never done, but it's can be difficult You know, improving skills can be a little less invasive, right?

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and

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a hundred percent.

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we talk about skill, you know, and Ro Robbie mentioned it, time interval.

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The club

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It's micro.

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the club face,

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It's super micro.

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club face hitting the ball, right?

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And where's the

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Where

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and vertically?

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We call that face, angle and, and dynamic Where is it striking on the face when it does that?

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Right.

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Where's the club moving in space, up and down, in

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down.

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and how fast is it going?

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Okay.

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Those are the things,

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Are those are

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we

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what you're working

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create the

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create.

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the to the interval produces Those are the

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Those are the only

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happening, right?

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Everything else that you trajectory, ball speed, carry distance, you know, rollout distance, land angles, peak

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mm-hmm.

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loft, all of those

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All those things are derived

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that interval and impact that we just described.

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Foundation.

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and so when

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So

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the foundation of that.

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the Foundation.

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can have

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then you.

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to it, which we do with a, with a device called in our lessons.

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Right?

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you.

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Yep.

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you can work on those

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On.

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way that mind blowingly, mind

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Mind blowing.

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I should say.

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Yeah.

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way that you're just like, oh my gosh.

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Now enough to tell that I've been, I taught golf for a long time when we had no access to that.

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Mm-hmm.

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pretty much everything was seen through the lens of swing, right?

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because we didn't have the tools, So

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Okay, So

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do have the tools, right?

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And so this is why, you instruction's important, but do you need to practice with track manual proof?

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You do not.

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And so that's what we try to go through in our, in our episodes, like are the ways that I

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what are the.

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myself feedback to understand what I'm doing, how I'm doing it, right?

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And I think that,

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I think that, um,

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we're gonna continue

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we're gonna continue

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very good visuals

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in our series.

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about ways you can try to detail uh, which I think we've done but really be effective there.

00:23:29.246 --> 00:23:36.205
we'll use the Substack to kind of like we've done in the past, show ways to practice, and we have definitely like practice drills and stuff on the substack.

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I think that that's

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think that that just

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whole

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the whole encompassing

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of

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sort of framework.

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Yeah,

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right?

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I'm

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because.

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I think those teachers that

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that I know?

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I, you know, that I with a are, are, understanding that and teaching

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Yeah,

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And it's exciting, right?

00:24:02.182 --> 00:24:02.472
yeah,

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it,

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sure.

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a lot of room for individual

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Individuality.

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Yes.

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what you might call idiosyncrasy,

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I call

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a swing

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building.

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in to out rather than out to in.

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Mm-hmm.

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I like that.

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Yeah.

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it's, unduly influencing every position of the swing.

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'cause it may not be comfortable for the student, it might not make sense to the student.

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Yeah.

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so those are the things that I

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Are things,

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for the

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Yeah.

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And

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what we can take away.

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one thing I was thinking about, like it's a lot of it is protecting the student from our own, like preferences and biases.

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Like,'cause everyone enjoys seeing different stuff, right?

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But it's like what we do is we make it so that's not the priority for every, like there's so many, I again, like this is, this podcast is not meant and designed to like rag on golf instruction because we believe in it wholeheartedly.

00:25:05.407 --> 00:25:10.238
Like you, the listener, like are gonna benefit from lessons, but.

00:25:10.288 --> 00:25:20.288
What we do is we try to push the, the industry, we try to push golf instruction in the desired direction, like in a direction that we believe is going to, is gonna get the masses of golfers better.

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There's just been so much golf instruction that has prioritized the instructors preferences and what they're looking at over the this is what this person, this individual needs their goals.

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Right here in front, like in, in like the, the like, like the fact-based evidence of like, what is the club doing relative to the golf ball?, Let's, let's prioritize what it's doing relative to what they would like it to do.

00:25:51.048 --> 00:25:54.008
And then like the swing stuff can be.

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Developed through their pursuing that task.

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Um, you know, obviously that's kind of how I, how I like to see it.

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That's how I think it, it should be.

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And I think you do too.

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And um, yeah, that's, that's what we're going to keep pushing for down

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the, days

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the days of

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play better golf.

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Go take a lesson.

00:26:17.290 --> 00:26:20.471
Okay, checkpoint one, checkpoint two, check ho.

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Hopefully those are going by the wayside.

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know,

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Yes.

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swing revamping, this is, you have to be in this position

00:26:29.272 --> 00:26:29.633
Yeah.

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because it's just not, I think that this framework of development, which is what I call, this is the terminology that I use, um, I share that with my, I shared it with my interns and I'm gonna be doing it with my, we, we just hired three new pros, um, at CCV, all straight outta college basically.

00:26:50.125 --> 00:26:52.121
So it's fun, like they're, they're ready to go.

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And

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And

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when we do

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so,

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I clue them into the right?

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Like talking about, uh, a little bit more, a little bit bigger.

00:27:02.980 --> 00:27:06.070
It's like a 30 slide document to be honest.

00:27:06.803 --> 00:27:07.012
Hmm.

00:27:07.121 --> 00:27:07.750
do it all at once.

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We kind of go through it, and what I say is, when you

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Is,

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come to see you, if you're understanding this the right they drop into your world.

00:27:19.195 --> 00:27:22.526
figure out who they are and why they're there and what they want to do.

00:27:23.032 --> 00:27:23.323
Yeah,

00:27:23.576 --> 00:27:25.496
drop into the framework somewhere.

00:27:25.675 --> 00:27:26.875
There's no starting point,

00:27:27.817 --> 00:27:28.178
yeah.

00:27:29.605 --> 00:27:37.226
get better at figuring out where that is, and then you figure it takes to allow them to make one step forward essentially.

00:27:38.153 --> 00:27:38.393
Yeah.

00:27:38.425 --> 00:27:44.096
keep taking one step forward that keep getting better and better.

00:27:44.438 --> 00:27:44.728
Yeah.

00:27:45.205 --> 00:27:46.945
improves and things get better.

00:27:47.185 --> 00:27:57.836
So it could be strategy, it it could be swing, Or some combination, like you said, they're not wholly separate from one another, but kind of.

00:27:58.195 --> 00:28:04.736
And so you drop'em in, you communicate really well, and you say, ma'am, we need to work on this today.

00:28:05.605 --> 00:28:05.875
Here.

00:28:05.875 --> 00:28:06.955
Here's where I think you are.

00:28:06.955 --> 00:28:09.445
Here, here's, let's talk about what's going on.

00:28:10.256 --> 00:28:12.536
And then hopefully they gain an understanding and they.

00:28:12.971 --> 00:28:15.371
They take that one step, they know how to practice it.

00:28:15.371 --> 00:28:23.260
They, they can practice effectively that growth mindset and figure out how to take that one step in the next direction.

00:28:24.010 --> 00:28:25.181
That's how it should work.

00:28:25.211 --> 00:28:28.721
It shouldn't be, Hey, I want to improve.

00:28:28.810 --> 00:28:29.351
Okay,

00:28:29.663 --> 00:28:29.952
Okay.

00:28:30.221 --> 00:28:31.840
here's everything I know about golf.

00:28:32.201 --> 00:28:33.461
Here's the things I'm gonna have you

00:28:33.788 --> 00:28:34.298
Yes.

00:28:34.391 --> 00:28:34.510
what

00:28:34.657 --> 00:28:34.988
Yeah.

00:28:35.020 --> 00:28:36.490
point, this is what I like to see.

00:28:37.931 --> 00:28:40.480
that, going by the wayside.

00:28:40.915 --> 00:28:51.385
And that leaves a lot of room, like I said, for individuality in the swing and the club, that that really can lead to some fun golf, you know, like

00:28:52.357 --> 00:28:52.688
Yeah.

00:28:52.705 --> 00:28:55.286
locked up golfers, like try to figure it out all the

00:28:55.478 --> 00:28:56.258
Mm-hmm.

00:28:57.266 --> 00:28:59.576
fun to see people just practicing their skills on the call.

00:28:59.605 --> 00:28:59.756
The

00:29:00.397 --> 00:29:01.268
Yes.

00:29:01.556 --> 00:29:02.246
all the time.

00:29:02.468 --> 00:29:02.857
Yeah.

00:29:03.266 --> 00:29:04.645
Um, so anyway,

00:29:05.137 --> 00:29:05.407
anyway,

00:29:05.816 --> 00:29:06.746
that discussion

00:29:06.792 --> 00:29:07.752
that discussion there

00:29:08.215 --> 00:29:08.756
Sort of

00:29:09.002 --> 00:29:09.413
sort of.

00:29:10.435 --> 00:29:10.675
in

00:29:11.143 --> 00:29:11.363
Yep.

00:29:12.326 --> 00:29:16.705
the whole thing, but it's idea, It's like the piece.

00:29:16.705 --> 00:29:21.865
I mean, within that you have equipment, have, you know, stuff with the body.

00:29:22.226 --> 00:29:22.405
You

00:29:27.807 --> 00:29:28.137
Yeah,

00:29:28.635 --> 00:29:29.236
attentional

00:29:29.428 --> 00:29:33.867
I'm clo I'm close to putting, I'm close to putting equipment in the strategy bin.

00:29:34.048 --> 00:29:36.923
I think that makes the most sense to me in terms of like where it is.

00:29:37.242 --> 00:29:39.252
It's interesting you say that.

00:29:39.252 --> 00:29:42.077
I was actually thinking where does,

00:29:42.240 --> 00:29:42.451
does.

00:29:42.698 --> 00:29:47.258
where does it, I think it's strategy personally.

00:29:48.211 --> 00:29:53.161
I think it most affects but maybe strategy too.

00:29:53.161 --> 00:29:55.080
It just depends on how you, how you dole it out.

00:29:55.080 --> 00:29:56.070
Because like when

00:29:56.113 --> 00:29:56.563
It depends.

00:29:56.563 --> 00:30:03.252
Yeah, it depends because like to me, when I talking about skill, like that is like you're, you're training a motor pattern, you're training your.

00:30:03.883 --> 00:30:08.353
Um, you're training your brain to perceive where the club is in space, right?

00:30:08.353 --> 00:30:10.272
The and where the face is and the speed.

00:30:11.262 --> 00:30:11.653
Yeah.

00:30:14.167 --> 00:30:14.907
Change someone,

00:30:14.941 --> 00:30:15.661
affect where the ball

00:30:18.137 --> 00:30:18.428
true.

00:30:19.567 --> 00:30:19.988
Change

00:30:20.371 --> 00:30:22.230
and affect or change someone's

00:30:22.337 --> 00:30:22.948
someone's.

00:30:24.871 --> 00:30:38.040
length of club or or center mass of a club or loft and change things like face opener, close dynamic loft touching the swing.

00:30:38.395 --> 00:30:38.746
Right.

00:30:38.982 --> 00:30:39.282
Yeah.

00:30:39.961 --> 00:30:40.530
that's why I was

00:30:40.573 --> 00:30:43.317
so that's why I was gonna say, it really fits into,

00:30:44.250 --> 00:30:44.851
for me it's

00:30:45.048 --> 00:30:46.307
for me, it's like, yeah,

00:30:47.820 --> 00:30:49.471
really goes back to am I impacting

00:30:49.488 --> 00:30:49.907
impact.

00:30:51.270 --> 00:30:53.280
and making it do the thing in that moment,

00:30:53.877 --> 00:30:54.097
Mm.

00:30:54.373 --> 00:30:54.732
Okay.

00:30:54.853 --> 00:30:55.542
Yeah, I can see that.

00:30:56.143 --> 00:30:56.323
Yeah.

00:30:57.391 --> 00:30:58.260
that's where the influence, so

00:30:58.903 --> 00:31:00.478
So basically like

00:31:00.871 --> 00:31:05.520
the other day he swing.

00:31:05.971 --> 00:31:06.451
At all.

00:31:06.542 --> 00:31:06.962
Mm-hmm.

00:31:07.201 --> 00:31:07.921
talk about his swing.

00:31:07.921 --> 00:31:09.361
He wasn't there to change his swing.

00:31:09.361 --> 00:31:13.681
He is an avid golfer, handicap, whatever, four days a week.

00:31:14.431 --> 00:31:22.171
Comes in for a club fitting and he's got like a 11.5 driver.

00:31:23.580 --> 00:31:29.040
And so he makes like, and it's not brand new, five, six years old, I can't remember what brand it was.

00:31:29.490 --> 00:31:30.510
So he makes like five or six.

00:31:30.510 --> 00:31:32.730
We hit it dead straight, like right off the middle of the

00:31:32.833 --> 00:31:33.492
Right off the middle face.

00:31:33.978 --> 00:31:34.268
Yeah.

00:31:34.381 --> 00:31:34.830
straight.

00:31:35.536 --> 00:31:39.855
3,200 spin at degrees, right?

00:31:40.198 --> 00:31:40.357
Mm-hmm.

00:31:40.548 --> 00:31:40.837
Yeah.

00:31:41.506 --> 00:31:42.046
um,

00:31:42.057 --> 00:31:42.278
Um,

00:31:42.405 --> 00:31:44.536
drop the loft down a little bit, right

00:31:45.978 --> 00:31:46.397
Mm-hmm.

00:31:46.587 --> 00:31:46.877
Yeah.

00:31:47.326 --> 00:31:50.086
he gained 20 carry, 20 yards carry.

00:31:50.266 --> 00:31:50.296
I

00:31:50.992 --> 00:31:51.133
Yeah.

00:31:51.403 --> 00:31:52.182
makes sense.

00:31:52.246 --> 00:31:53.266
yards carry distance.

00:31:54.105 --> 00:31:55.395
So his skillset, his

00:31:55.667 --> 00:31:55.768
skillset, his skill.

00:31:57.316 --> 00:31:58.635
you know, it changed.

00:31:58.752 --> 00:31:59.143
Yeah.

00:31:59.355 --> 00:32:03.806
up, know, and so I would say, anyway, that's kind of how I it

00:32:04.452 --> 00:32:04.843
Yeah.

00:32:04.962 --> 00:32:05.413
I can see that.

00:32:05.413 --> 00:32:05.532
I like

00:32:05.566 --> 00:32:06.346
it from multiple.

00:32:06.373 --> 00:32:10.272
my, my dumb brain's thinking like, okay, like a part of strategy is like club selection.

00:32:10.303 --> 00:32:12.343
Like Yeah, like you're literally pulling the club outta the back.

00:32:12.343 --> 00:32:12.492
So like.

00:32:13.678 --> 00:32:15.417
What club are you pulling outta the bag?

00:32:15.417 --> 00:32:17.067
Like that's what you're changing.

00:32:17.067 --> 00:32:20.883
So like, that's, that's kind of much.

00:32:21.028 --> 00:32:21.508
Yeah,

00:32:23.776 --> 00:32:24.375
so it's, it's

00:32:24.508 --> 00:32:26.758
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:32:26.836 --> 00:32:28.215
that influence, right?

00:32:28.215 --> 00:32:28.576
Where you're

00:32:28.768 --> 00:32:30.837
No, I, I, I see your, I see your point too.

00:32:30.867 --> 00:32:34.347
'cause in that context, you're taking a delivered skill.

00:32:34.768 --> 00:32:37.377
Here's a different club, you're getting a different delivered skill.

00:32:37.377 --> 00:32:40.053
So like I, yeah, I totally, I Yeah.

00:32:41.678 --> 00:32:43.018
So we did talk about equipment.

00:32:43.665 --> 00:32:45.826
mindset, which definitely I would say

00:32:47.563 --> 00:32:48.103
Yes.

00:32:48.103 --> 00:32:49.002
That's strategy.

00:32:49.032 --> 00:32:49.542
Big time.

00:32:49.603 --> 00:32:49.813
Yeah.

00:32:50.296 --> 00:32:57.990
the body stuff, which I would say probably Yeah.

00:32:57.990 --> 00:32:58.471
And you said,

00:32:58.557 --> 00:32:58.708
Yeah.

00:32:58.708 --> 00:32:59.442
you said you

00:32:59.580 --> 00:32:59.911
doing

00:33:00.182 --> 00:33:00.603
you doing

00:33:00.661 --> 00:33:01.500
injure yourself?

00:33:01.500 --> 00:33:04.111
It was interesting that you said that if what

00:33:04.222 --> 00:33:04.682
go back to

00:33:05.040 --> 00:33:11.760
when he was talking about the swing and what you're trying to get out of it, you said, am I in a position to injure myself?

00:33:12.601 --> 00:33:12.931
Right.

00:33:12.931 --> 00:33:14.580
Second of all, can I

00:33:14.667 --> 00:33:15.028
Yeah.

00:33:15.232 --> 00:33:15.843
something

00:33:16.621 --> 00:33:18.121
you know, better shots, essentially?

00:33:18.121 --> 00:33:18.391
Right.

00:33:18.472 --> 00:33:18.762
Yeah.

00:33:20.941 --> 00:33:21.721
I was, I

00:33:21.792 --> 00:33:22.123
I was,

00:33:22.171 --> 00:33:22.230
a

00:33:22.512 --> 00:33:22.843
I was having a

00:33:23.431 --> 00:33:24.026
young and eager.

00:33:24.961 --> 00:33:26.010
Trainers, right?

00:33:26.010 --> 00:33:26.221
So you

00:33:26.653 --> 00:33:26.952
Mm-hmm.

00:33:27.961 --> 00:33:28.441
They wanna learn

00:33:28.667 --> 00:33:29.478
They about

00:33:29.550 --> 00:33:29.941
they want

00:33:30.268 --> 00:33:30.762
they wanna be,

00:33:30.931 --> 00:33:36.391
you fitness to play better golf, which is great,

00:33:37.272 --> 00:33:37.512
yep.

00:33:38.280 --> 00:33:39.990
I think there's a lot of benefit to that.

00:33:42.421 --> 00:33:51.691
when I said to them, 80% of what you should be doing with country Club golfers is focused on injury prevention, they were shocked to hear

00:33:51.883 --> 00:33:53.952
yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:33:53.955 --> 00:33:55.125
I thought we were doing box

00:33:57.462 --> 00:33:57.762
boy.

00:33:58.546 --> 00:34:00.405
Like, think about who's your clientele is.

00:34:00.405 --> 00:34:00.796
Right?

00:34:02.415 --> 00:34:04.215
gentlemen that work at desks.

00:34:04.276 --> 00:34:05.145
You got, they

00:34:05.413 --> 00:34:05.772
Yep.

00:34:06.615 --> 00:34:07.965
You know, they're getting older.

00:34:07.996 --> 00:34:11.806
They may train, a lot of our members are very healthy.

00:34:11.806 --> 00:34:13.155
They work out a lot, right?

00:34:13.155 --> 00:34:15.135
Like it's a, it's a healthy membership.

00:34:16.065 --> 00:34:17.295
They don't train for golf.

00:34:17.416 --> 00:34:20.356
They train, they train in a push pull kind of way.

00:34:21.436 --> 00:34:28.246
which you can be very strong and fit doing that and injure yourself playing golf'cause you're not training in any rotational planes.

00:34:30.465 --> 00:34:30.945
you know,

00:34:31.257 --> 00:34:31.597
you know,

00:34:31.815 --> 00:34:32.416
weaker

00:34:32.577 --> 00:34:32.998
weaker.

00:34:33.106 --> 00:34:33.856
and all these things.

00:34:33.856 --> 00:34:34.545
And like,

00:34:34.842 --> 00:34:35.112
Yeah.

00:34:36.166 --> 00:34:36.315
be

00:34:37.043 --> 00:34:37.762
be focused on

00:34:38.085 --> 00:34:38.445
that.

00:34:38.445 --> 00:34:38.655
Whether

00:34:38.862 --> 00:34:39.152
that.

00:34:39.152 --> 00:34:40.432
Whether you tell them that

00:34:40.666 --> 00:34:41.235
matter.

00:34:41.273 --> 00:34:42.273
really matter, right?

00:34:42.413 --> 00:34:42.833
Mm-hmm.

00:34:43.005 --> 00:34:48.315
hard make a selling point.

00:34:48.496 --> 00:34:48.885
Right.

00:34:48.885 --> 00:34:52.246
But you, but you could say your golf appointments performance will improve.

00:34:52.246 --> 00:34:52.635
Yeah.

00:34:52.936 --> 00:34:57.945
By being mobile and strong in the right areas and, and being able to move better and having better balance.

00:34:57.945 --> 00:35:02.356
And, and these things, they first are gonna to less injury

00:35:02.902 --> 00:35:03.193
Yeah.

00:35:03.795 --> 00:35:05.175
you know, they're gonna help your performance.

00:35:05.175 --> 00:35:06.945
So, I mean, I think that's,

00:35:06.987 --> 00:35:07.983
think that's the

00:35:08.536 --> 00:35:11.146
falls under like swing performance for sure.

00:35:11.373 --> 00:35:11.663
yeah.

00:35:13.186 --> 00:35:15.436
and, and so we go through that too and we'll, we will talk

00:35:15.963 --> 00:35:16.413
Talk about.

00:35:16.425 --> 00:35:21.615
know, limitations and what people can do, what they can't do, into the swing.

00:35:22.365 --> 00:35:24.405
Um, yeah,

00:35:24.632 --> 00:35:24.922
Yeah.

00:35:25.036 --> 00:35:25.126
it,

00:35:25.222 --> 00:35:25.603
so I

00:35:25.695 --> 00:35:25.996
fun.

00:35:25.996 --> 00:35:26.626
Robbie, I'm,

00:35:26.697 --> 00:35:27.117
fun, fun, Robbie.

00:35:27.117 --> 00:35:30.123
I'm, I'm, I'm really excited for the next chapter.

00:35:30.135 --> 00:35:30.405
a little

00:35:30.418 --> 00:35:30.597
Yeah.

00:35:34.666 --> 00:35:37.545
the It's fun having people

00:35:37.697 --> 00:35:38.117
People,

00:35:38.206 --> 00:35:38.655
Erica.

00:35:39.990 --> 00:35:43.891
New episode coming anytime and, uh, yeah.

00:35:43.891 --> 00:35:44.701
Yeah, it's coming.

00:35:44.983 --> 00:35:46.782
asking like, all right, who, who died?

00:35:47.070 --> 00:35:48.391
Well, what's happening?

00:35:50.958 --> 00:35:51.248
Yeah.

00:35:51.300 --> 00:35:52.320
and Robbie have a fight?

00:35:52.351 --> 00:35:52.740
No, no, no.

00:35:52.740 --> 00:35:53.221
We're good.

00:35:53.221 --> 00:35:53.760
We're cool.

00:35:54.751 --> 00:35:55.021
as we've

00:35:55.068 --> 00:35:55.568
Oh gosh.

00:35:55.831 --> 00:35:56.311
ever been.

00:35:56.628 --> 00:35:58.333
Did someone, someone say that?

00:35:59.190 --> 00:35:59.371
Yeah.

00:36:00.090 --> 00:36:00.391
you,

00:36:00.418 --> 00:36:01.257
Oh my God.

00:36:01.621 --> 00:36:01.891
still?

00:36:02.427 --> 00:36:03.208
Are y'all okay?

00:36:03.331 --> 00:36:03.931
We cool?

00:36:04.498 --> 00:36:06.088
No we're not divorced.

00:36:06.210 --> 00:36:11.865
get to more, we No you know, people go through stuff.

00:36:12.682 --> 00:36:12.902
yep.

00:36:13.365 --> 00:36:15.106
um, yeah, no,

00:36:15.253 --> 00:36:15.543
Yeah,

00:36:15.556 --> 00:36:15.916
So what else

00:36:15.958 --> 00:36:16.347
I'm excited.

00:36:16.347 --> 00:36:17.342
So what else you wanna talk about tonight?

00:36:18.117 --> 00:36:19.887
Yeah, do you have a, do you have some questions?

00:36:19.887 --> 00:36:20.907
Do you have some mail back stuff?

00:36:21.748 --> 00:36:25.378
You have some forms form forum stuff that we can, that we can pick on.

00:36:25.635 --> 00:36:25.846
through

00:36:29.112 --> 00:36:29.802
Oh man.

00:36:29.802 --> 00:36:33.103
I thought you had'em like on, I thought you had them like that in front of you.

00:36:37.561 --> 00:36:37.981
right now.

00:36:38.101 --> 00:36:47.251
Um, one of the ones I saw, which, which was, so this just goes back, I kinda actually mentioned this just a little bit ago, but I saw one that was like, play a 12 degree driver.

00:36:47.251 --> 00:36:49.320
Do you think I should change that or something?

00:36:49.320 --> 00:36:51.150
And people get rid all these answers.

00:36:51.871 --> 00:36:52.170
The,

00:36:52.302 --> 00:36:52.452
Yeah.

00:36:52.831 --> 00:36:57.420
is maybe, it really depends you launch

00:36:57.612 --> 00:36:58.092
Yes.

00:36:58.231 --> 00:37:01.501
like, you, you, you, you can't go find just

00:37:01.543 --> 00:37:04.117
Find, Yeah.

00:37:04.485 --> 00:37:07.846
and have these great answers if you, if you understand

00:37:07.858 --> 00:37:10.838
If you understand the process of what it takes to play better.

00:37:10.965 --> 00:37:17.655
then you'll know that you'll that's a context list.

00:37:17.715 --> 00:37:18.315
Is that a word?

00:37:18.405 --> 00:37:20.356
Lacking context question.

00:37:20.385 --> 00:37:20.416
Textless

00:37:21.072 --> 00:37:21.432
less.

00:37:21.432 --> 00:37:21.733
Yeah.

00:37:21.916 --> 00:37:23.655
lacking context for sure.

00:37:24.523 --> 00:37:24.822
Yep.

00:37:26.253 --> 00:37:26.472
So

00:37:26.626 --> 00:37:27.045
be,

00:37:27.072 --> 00:37:27.632
have to be

00:37:27.675 --> 00:37:27.795
be,

00:37:28.063 --> 00:37:28.827
you have to be asking,

00:37:29.565 --> 00:37:29.896
right?

00:37:31.288 --> 00:37:31.588
and

00:37:32.175 --> 00:37:32.385
some

00:37:33.182 --> 00:37:33.382
people,

00:37:33.436 --> 00:37:34.126
people don't.

00:37:34.516 --> 00:37:35.385
I think people

00:37:35.998 --> 00:37:37.302
I think people generally just

00:37:38.565 --> 00:37:39.166
to play better.

00:37:39.195 --> 00:37:39.706
I will tell you

00:37:39.972 --> 00:37:41.063
they're looking for the secret.

00:37:41.775 --> 00:37:42.195
the secret.

00:37:42.195 --> 00:37:53.701
I will tell you something that I've been doing recently wife and children It is getting back into playing my guitar song, which I hadn't done for years.

00:37:53.907 --> 00:37:54.208
Mm.

00:37:54.268 --> 00:37:54.657
Cool.

00:37:54.721 --> 00:38:05.701
got a really, really sweet guitar for my wife for Um, kind of like a dream, like for people that play guitar, like it's like a dream guitar, right?

00:38:06.393 --> 00:38:06.512
Hmm.

00:38:08.911 --> 00:38:09.840
it also,

00:38:10.012 --> 00:38:10.302
also

00:38:10.985 --> 00:38:13.050
it, it's a, it's an electric guitar.

00:38:13.710 --> 00:38:14.311
Um.

00:38:15.541 --> 00:38:16.681
It's challenging me

00:38:16.773 --> 00:38:17.012
challenging.

00:38:17.251 --> 00:38:18.541
new things, right?

00:38:19.097 --> 00:38:19.467
Yeah.

00:38:19.471 --> 00:38:19.981
I do?

00:38:20.221 --> 00:38:24.751
I do what everybody go on YouTube and try to figure out how to and guess what?

00:38:25.081 --> 00:38:29.701
It's frustrating and it's maddening and nothing helps me, right?

00:38:29.701 --> 00:38:31.170
Like I have plenty of skills.

00:38:31.170 --> 00:38:36.271
I'm like, I'm like a, I'm like a golfer that like, you're like, oh, that guy could do some things right?

00:38:36.300 --> 00:38:38.190
But he like has the yips putting or something.

00:38:38.190 --> 00:38:39.811
No, it's not, that's not a good, that's not a good

00:38:40.092 --> 00:38:43.632
Well, what level, so are you a level 1, 2, 3, or four guitar player?

00:38:44.041 --> 00:38:56.161
I would I, I could play the acoustic guitar, you know, you wanna listen to a real strum song, right?

00:38:56.161 --> 00:39:03.476
Like a open chord, crummy, acoustic, country song, rock song, all that style of playing.

00:39:04.376 --> 00:39:04.675
I'm like.

00:39:05.536 --> 00:39:06.076
Pretty good.

00:39:06.166 --> 00:39:08.505
Like yeah, like decent, like pretty good, right?

00:39:08.505 --> 00:39:09.226
It could play songs.

00:39:09.226 --> 00:39:09.795
It do, do it

00:39:09.882 --> 00:39:10.172
Yeah.

00:39:10.365 --> 00:39:15.106
good rhythm, good like it's, I'm pretty, I'm not trying to brag, good.

00:39:15.766 --> 00:39:18.485
But when it goes to heavier bluesy, lead

00:39:18.663 --> 00:39:18.992
Hmm

00:39:19.356 --> 00:39:20.226
I have no skill at all.

00:39:20.226 --> 00:39:21.065
'cause I've never done it.

00:39:21.152 --> 00:39:21.753
Hmm.

00:39:21.755 --> 00:39:22.025
saying?

00:39:22.025 --> 00:39:22.266
Like, I

00:39:22.353 --> 00:39:24.902
So as soon as you go to the wet dorm in Bermuda,

00:39:24.965 --> 00:39:25.056
I

00:39:25.322 --> 00:39:31.467
in, in the winter time, why am I knifing everything?

00:39:31.746 --> 00:39:40.115
But I will tell you, there's so many, learning and it, it's, it's like anything else's skill development, right?

00:39:40.115 --> 00:39:41.646
So it's like I'm learning

00:39:41.708 --> 00:39:41.827
Yeah.

00:39:41.945 --> 00:39:48.376
motor skill, it's it through music, through a playing an instrument, you know, learning I wanna play.

00:39:50.070 --> 00:39:50.760
I don't know.

00:39:51.030 --> 00:39:51.900
I wanna play Sta.

00:39:51.900 --> 00:39:53.101
I'm just saying this is a ram.

00:39:53.101 --> 00:39:55.141
It's not an answer, but I wanna play Stairway to Heaven.

00:39:55.260 --> 00:39:57.030
I wanna play the solo and Stairway to Heaven.

00:39:57.030 --> 00:39:58.141
I'll be like, Jimmy Page.

00:39:58.141 --> 00:39:58.501
Right.

00:39:59.400 --> 00:40:01.650
I mean, I don't understand scales really.

00:40:01.650 --> 00:40:03.001
'cause I never played scales.

00:40:03.001 --> 00:40:03.811
I don't play lead.

00:40:03.811 --> 00:40:04.380
I don't play.

00:40:04.710 --> 00:40:06.271
I don't play that style.

00:40:06.331 --> 00:40:08.010
Like everything I do is on the top

00:40:08.052 --> 00:40:08.472
Mm-hmm.

00:40:08.521 --> 00:40:15.210
playing court, open courts as opposed to on the bottom and in the middle where you're you know that fast stuff.

00:40:15.210 --> 00:40:18.030
And then there's tone of the guitar and there's amplifiers and like.

00:40:18.320 --> 00:40:22.280
All this stuff that I just, it's a new world, but there's so much of it.

00:40:22.701 --> 00:40:29.900
And if I try to go on and like, oh, learn to do this, the context is so lacking that you can't figure out where you are in the process, right?

00:40:29.951 --> 00:40:30.815
A hundred percent.

00:40:31.079 --> 00:40:33.780
remedial'cause I'm really good at other stuff or decent other stuff.

00:40:33.780 --> 00:40:37.380
And then can't do that at all and I don't really understand it.

00:40:37.739 --> 00:40:44.789
So what I've decided is music theory is like understanding ball light loss.

00:40:45.684 --> 00:40:47.545
It's the foundation of it, right?

00:40:47.815 --> 00:40:53.545
It's like I gotta understand notes, scales, keys, that kind of thing.

00:40:54.355 --> 00:40:56.485
then I'll be able to, but that's like

00:40:56.871 --> 00:40:57.231
that's like.

00:40:57.744 --> 00:41:02.574
how ball flight laws And then I can, then to make sense, right?

00:41:03.081 --> 00:41:03.371
Yeah,

00:41:03.385 --> 00:41:07.514
also the things we talk about, like pacing your practice and if I do it in shorter

00:41:07.581 --> 00:41:07.800
do

00:41:07.844 --> 00:41:08.625
more often,

00:41:08.630 --> 00:41:09.161
more often,

00:41:09.315 --> 00:41:09.614
better

00:41:09.740 --> 00:41:10.320
that's better

00:41:10.485 --> 00:41:11.744
for an hour once every three days.

00:41:12.719 --> 00:41:13.050
Right.

00:41:13.710 --> 00:41:17.940
I try to or 10 minutes and do stuff and then do that a couple times a day.

00:41:19.440 --> 00:41:24.690
it's amazing how I feel like that's way better than me sitting for an hour and try to figure something out.

00:41:25.409 --> 00:41:27.480
Um, so it's,

00:41:27.715 --> 00:41:29.516
So it's, it's, uh, it's very.

00:41:29.590 --> 00:41:29.650
Yeah.

00:41:30.570 --> 00:41:30.840
I think

00:41:30.976 --> 00:41:33.916
And so I think that for us, those of us that teach,

00:41:34.170 --> 00:41:35.340
quote, those

00:41:35.746 --> 00:41:37.856
those, that teach should never succeed.

00:41:38.246 --> 00:41:38.666
Mm-hmm.

00:41:38.670 --> 00:41:39.719
it's attributed

00:41:39.865 --> 00:41:40.425
attributed,

00:41:43.260 --> 00:41:43.710
the point

00:41:44.045 --> 00:41:44.585
the point is

00:41:45.630 --> 00:41:46.800
we, we don't

00:41:46.916 --> 00:41:47.135
we,

00:41:47.250 --> 00:41:47.760
learn, right?

00:41:47.760 --> 00:41:48.030
Like we're

00:41:49.106 --> 00:41:49.396
yeah.

00:41:49.500 --> 00:41:52.079
do teach like teaching and Like that's

00:41:52.181 --> 00:41:52.871
Teaching and learning like that.

00:41:53.849 --> 00:41:58.719
I was telling you before you and I speak golf performance, We're so wrapped up in it.

00:41:59.199 --> 00:42:00.789
We speak golf performance all day.

00:42:00.789 --> 00:42:01.239
We play

00:42:01.376 --> 00:42:01.596
day,

00:42:01.630 --> 00:42:03.280
teach it, we think about it, we watch it,

00:42:03.650 --> 00:42:03.951
watch it,

00:42:03.969 --> 00:42:04.539
and

00:42:04.876 --> 00:42:05.096
and.

00:42:05.230 --> 00:42:10.429
listener to or the a the regular They're in and out of it.

00:42:10.460 --> 00:42:11.690
Their life is not golf.

00:42:12.349 --> 00:42:13.460
that's how I am with music.

00:42:13.460 --> 00:42:16.474
I, I go like everything else and then I drop into

00:42:16.490 --> 00:42:17.295
I drop into it

00:42:17.434 --> 00:42:18.425
alright, what am I doing now?

00:42:18.815 --> 00:42:19.204
Right.

00:42:20.405 --> 00:42:20.675
it's

00:42:20.751 --> 00:42:20.971
and

00:42:21.784 --> 00:42:23.974
to learn, like, like immersion

00:42:24.016 --> 00:42:24.766
like conversion.

00:42:25.505 --> 00:42:29.324
go to a two week guitar camp, myself in it for a while and

00:42:29.375 --> 00:42:29.675
Yeah.

00:42:29.675 --> 00:42:29.764
It's

00:42:29.844 --> 00:42:33.534
I think about for a mo I take a sabbatical and spend six months doing it.

00:42:34.583 --> 00:42:34.914
But.

00:42:35.903 --> 00:42:37.014
That's not how my life is.

00:42:37.014 --> 00:42:42.114
So I'm in and outta the brain is switched off from, about it all, and then I drop into it and that's how golfers are.

00:42:42.164 --> 00:42:43.273
I go to work and I'm

00:42:43.329 --> 00:42:43.599
Work,

00:42:43.994 --> 00:42:48.434
stocks and I'm a lawyer and I'm doing these things and then I'm a doctor and then, know, I'm

00:42:48.775 --> 00:42:48.994
you

00:42:49.273 --> 00:42:49.634
lives.

00:42:49.634 --> 00:42:49.724
And

00:42:49.724 --> 00:42:50.074
knows,

00:42:50.114 --> 00:42:51.043
go to the country club

00:42:51.070 --> 00:42:51.250
and to

00:42:51.313 --> 00:42:51.643
to figure

00:42:51.670 --> 00:42:51.820
club

00:42:52.003 --> 00:42:52.393
how do

00:42:52.420 --> 00:42:52.570
out.

00:42:53.684 --> 00:42:53.954
grip?

00:42:54.884 --> 00:42:56.023
what was, what

00:42:56.230 --> 00:42:56.590
Yes.

00:42:56.684 --> 00:42:57.583
me my left

00:42:57.730 --> 00:42:58.210
Yeah.

00:42:58.664 --> 00:43:02.083
Like, know,'cause it's just in top of mind.

00:43:03.190 --> 00:43:03.519
Right.

00:43:03.730 --> 00:43:03.880
I think

00:43:04.364 --> 00:43:04.454
Cool.

00:43:05.414 --> 00:43:05.954
If you

00:43:06.315 --> 00:43:08.054
If you understand the developmental

00:43:08.653 --> 00:43:09.824
helps build like

00:43:10.494 --> 00:43:10.695
yeah.

00:43:12.733 --> 00:43:13.753
And that's what I was talking about.

00:43:13.753 --> 00:43:16.003
It's very, similar to anything.

00:43:16.003 --> 00:43:19.213
I'm sure fitness is like this and music and gymnastics and

00:43:19.264 --> 00:43:19.684
Mm-hmm.

00:43:20.373 --> 00:43:22.952
type of skill you would, you would want to learn for your.

00:43:24.353 --> 00:43:24.643
Yeah.

00:43:24.664 --> 00:43:26.918
And then one thing that actually.

00:43:27.208 --> 00:43:37.048
You made me realize as you were talking, like as you were discussing your guitar is like what you, the answer that you gave me was like, oh, I'm, I'm a level one in, in this aspect of playing guitar.

00:43:37.048 --> 00:43:41.188
I'm a level two aspect in this playing guitar, and I'm a level, maybe a level three in this.

00:43:41.429 --> 00:43:50.768
So when we're going through these level 1, 2, 3, 4 discussions, it's always gonna start with some of the data that we have that is gonna educate you on.

00:43:51.463 --> 00:43:57.764
Based off of your, where you are in your game and actually where you are in each aspect of your game, right?

00:43:57.764 --> 00:44:04.543
Are you a level 1, 2, 3, 4 driver versus your approach play versus your short game versus your putting?

00:44:05.293 --> 00:44:12.764
Um, and so because you could, you could be a level two golfer from a scoring average standpoint, but be a level three putter.

00:44:13.333 --> 00:44:13.753
Right.

00:44:13.994 --> 00:44:20.923
But the reason why you're level two is because you are like injury level one when it comes to your driver, right?

00:44:20.983 --> 00:44:35.623
So, so our goal is to, is to, and what something that we're gonna work on is to make sure that you all have some, some concrete stats, some concrete ways for you to distinguish what areas of your game are your strengths, right?

00:44:35.623 --> 00:44:40.784
And we're gonna teach you which areas to prioritize in terms of like, Hey, based off of where you are.

00:44:41.264 --> 00:44:48.284
This aspect of the game, you probably need to prioritize that or try to get that to be a strength of your game, right?

00:44:48.284 --> 00:44:56.804
Because for some golfers, like there are elements, uh, again, between like driving approach, shorting and putting that just aren't as relevant, that we're not gonna really care.

00:44:56.804 --> 00:45:00.853
Like if you're a entry level two, here's an example, right?

00:45:00.853 --> 00:45:03.853
Like if you are an entry level to.

00:45:04.483 --> 00:45:08.954
Golfer and you want to get to the end of level two, right?

00:45:08.954 --> 00:45:11.474
We're talking like, Hey, you're, you're averaging 87.

00:45:11.773 --> 00:45:14.384
You'd like to get all the way down to like 78.

00:45:15.673 --> 00:45:26.324
If you're currently like a le, like an entry level two putter, we don't really care that you get to the end of level two in putting, like, that's not how you're probably gonna get there, right?

00:45:26.474 --> 00:45:29.443
We're gonna prioritize, hey, let's to get you to the end of level two.

00:45:29.443 --> 00:45:34.748
Let's kind of push driving, let's push approach, play as much as we can to get our shots to green.

00:45:35.804 --> 00:45:36.943
To where they need to be, right?

00:45:36.943 --> 00:45:45.224
Because we know based off of the stats, like your shots to green, your, your A-K-A-K-A, your greens and regulation are really what's going to like get you to the end of level two.

00:45:45.224 --> 00:45:47.923
And we're gonna prioritize that while not.

00:45:48.778 --> 00:45:54.509
Allowing your putting and your short game to be so far down there into like level one to where it's a detriment.

00:45:54.898 --> 00:46:00.389
So like we're gonna prioritize like, Hey, can we get, can we just keep the putting in the short game good enough?

00:46:00.809 --> 00:46:03.778
Can we have a good enough floor so that we can really kind of.

00:46:04.059 --> 00:46:06.878
Spend the time improving the ceiling of your, of your driving.

00:46:07.119 --> 00:46:20.708
Like that's gonna be some of the stuff that we're gonna be, um, delving into, uh, and getting y'all to understand really, like effective time management and, and spending your, you know, your valuable time when you go and practice in a, in a very kind of smart, productive way.

00:46:25.393 --> 00:46:26.052
point there.

00:46:26.233 --> 00:46:28.422
Like what is that, what is that

00:46:28.688 --> 00:46:28.889
What is that?

00:46:28.889 --> 00:46:28.974
What is.

00:46:29.233 --> 00:46:34.842
in the framework in the moment based on who I am and to do, where I want to go?

00:46:35.682 --> 00:46:35.952
is

00:46:36.059 --> 00:46:36.268
Yep.

00:46:36.342 --> 00:46:37.302
that I have to work on?

00:46:37.452 --> 00:46:37.813
Right.

00:46:38.112 --> 00:46:38.773
I had one the other

00:46:38.969 --> 00:46:39.784
I had one the other day

00:46:39.913 --> 00:46:53.913
kind of goes um, stories from our A really good player who I've worked with a long time and he's now in the age of senior golf and he's good.

00:46:54.182 --> 00:47:03.722
So this is, this is a guy that's like 52 years old and has, I think his driver club speed's still like a hundred, 1,012.

00:47:04.304 --> 00:47:04.724
Mm-hmm.

00:47:04.922 --> 00:47:05.463
athletic.

00:47:05.463 --> 00:47:11.282
Played two sports division, one in college, like very athletic I just move it.

00:47:11.342 --> 00:47:11.822
So like at

00:47:11.824 --> 00:47:12.043
So

00:47:12.092 --> 00:47:22.293
years old he's thinking, he's like a one, maybe a one or I think maybe a two a pretty, like this is kind of the point of the story is like pretty mediocre wedge play.

00:47:23.972 --> 00:47:24.512
So

00:47:24.934 --> 00:47:25.153
So

00:47:25.262 --> 00:47:25.802
it came to

00:47:25.824 --> 00:47:27.393
when it to like assess

00:47:27.603 --> 00:47:28.503
to meet and have a game plan.

00:47:28.503 --> 00:47:29.253
I'm like, this is great.

00:47:29.253 --> 00:47:30.063
I plan.

00:47:31.893 --> 00:47:33.367
it out and um.

00:47:33.844 --> 00:47:34.304
and um.

00:47:34.547 --> 00:47:35.088
he's well

00:47:35.454 --> 00:47:35.744
he's,

00:47:35.777 --> 00:47:39.077
of where, where he needs to improve there.

00:47:39.077 --> 00:47:39.797
But we

00:47:39.844 --> 00:47:40.664
but he looked

00:47:41.027 --> 00:47:41.418
and I was

00:47:41.603 --> 00:47:41.824
and,

00:47:42.617 --> 00:47:43.277
so

00:47:43.284 --> 00:47:43.503
so

00:47:43.518 --> 00:47:43.938
a little bit of a

00:47:44.969 --> 00:47:45.389
tinker.

00:47:45.588 --> 00:47:50.268
can be especially good athletes, I feel like'cause they can, makes sense.

00:47:50.268 --> 00:47:50.657
Like if I have

00:47:50.878 --> 00:47:51.088
sense.

00:47:51.088 --> 00:47:51.514
Like if I have

00:47:51.768 --> 00:47:52.367
I can like, well,

00:47:52.423 --> 00:47:52.713
Yeah,

00:47:52.788 --> 00:47:53.387
this.

00:47:53.489 --> 00:47:53.909
know.

00:47:53.909 --> 00:47:55.208
Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:47:55.574 --> 00:47:55.793
So

00:47:55.998 --> 00:47:56.748
I was like, Hey,

00:47:56.873 --> 00:47:57.514
I was like, Hey,

00:47:57.527 --> 00:47:57.737
here's

00:47:57.813 --> 00:47:58.233
here's

00:48:00.918 --> 00:48:03.467
you can to all the skills.

00:48:04.427 --> 00:48:05.958
So let's not

00:48:06.134 --> 00:48:08.003
Let's not take, let's actually,

00:48:08.117 --> 00:48:08.327
let's

00:48:08.753 --> 00:48:09.103
let's

00:48:09.347 --> 00:48:10.007
take a little

00:48:10.134 --> 00:48:12.963
take a little bit of like a approach to

00:48:12.978 --> 00:48:13.188
it's

00:48:13.523 --> 00:48:16.284
where it's just simply strategy.

00:48:16.384 --> 00:48:16.804
Mm-hmm.

00:48:17.458 --> 00:48:19.344
On, basically.

00:48:21.288 --> 00:48:22.398
can, right?

00:48:23.219 --> 00:48:23.518
Yep.

00:48:23.987 --> 00:48:31.038
So I'm like in the maintenance phase with the monkey with it The, putting is okay.

00:48:31.788 --> 00:48:33.467
like we're kind of in maintenance phase there

00:48:33.543 --> 00:48:33.963
Mm-hmm.

00:48:34.188 --> 00:48:36.858
for you to go from two to plus two maybe.

00:48:37.038 --> 00:48:37.878
It's actually

00:48:38.523 --> 00:48:38.943
Person.

00:48:39.137 --> 00:48:40.487
game and probably medium, which

00:48:40.643 --> 00:48:41.063
Mm-hmm.

00:48:42.318 --> 00:48:44.568
we're gonna gonna try to develop

00:48:44.739 --> 00:48:44.898
to,

00:48:45.858 --> 00:48:47.268
there in

00:48:47.384 --> 00:48:47.773
yeah.

00:48:47.983 --> 00:48:48.659
In whatever way we

00:48:49.563 --> 00:48:50.402
gonna be maintenance.

00:48:50.402 --> 00:49:00.393
And then I gave him one thing to And I said, when you practice the full swing, of tinkering with your swing,'cause you're gonna pra he's a practicer.

00:49:00.422 --> 00:49:00.632
Right.

00:49:00.632 --> 00:49:01.472
Likes to practice.

00:49:01.798 --> 00:49:02.018
Yep.

00:49:02.043 --> 00:49:02.552
instead of like

00:49:02.849 --> 00:49:03.938
Sort of like getting out there

00:49:04.143 --> 00:49:06.813
in being like, well lemme try this because do.

00:49:06.813 --> 00:49:07.068
Right?

00:49:07.068 --> 00:49:07.202
Like,

00:49:07.298 --> 00:49:08.398
That's what people do.

00:49:08.659 --> 00:49:08.878
Yep.

00:49:08.943 --> 00:49:09.452
this thing.

00:49:09.782 --> 00:49:10.592
I said, don't

00:49:10.603 --> 00:49:11.668
I said, don't do that.

00:49:11.893 --> 00:49:13.429
I said, put your fingers like this.

00:49:14.163 --> 00:49:14.583
Okay.

00:49:14.588 --> 00:49:15.032
'cause you're a good

00:49:16.423 --> 00:49:16.753
Yeah.

00:49:17.534 --> 00:49:18.824
Look at a target trying to get fingers.

00:49:18.858 --> 00:49:19.998
fingers and see how you're doing

00:49:20.054 --> 00:49:20.384
Yeah.

00:49:21.074 --> 00:49:21.373
Yeah.

00:49:21.498 --> 00:49:23.748
then, about on the

00:49:23.938 --> 00:49:24.389
What about on?

00:49:25.038 --> 00:49:26.387
I'm like, thinking.

00:49:26.568 --> 00:49:27.557
Absolutely right.

00:49:27.768 --> 00:49:28.338
So there's your

00:49:28.708 --> 00:49:29.099
There's your,

00:49:29.387 --> 00:49:29.987
Went and played the

00:49:30.114 --> 00:49:31.284
when the next day.

00:49:31.367 --> 00:49:37.157
I played a great round the finger thing about anything else.

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He's like, I just, he said it

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said

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up in a way I've never been freed up

00:49:41.224 --> 00:49:42.164
That's really cool.

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is good.

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Right?

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Because his focus on his full swing to change a little bit.

00:49:49.637 --> 00:49:50.177
I wanted it

00:49:50.244 --> 00:49:50.534
yeah.

00:49:50.628 --> 00:49:55.967
from swing and tinkering just strategy Right?

00:49:56.594 --> 00:49:56.804
Mm-hmm.

00:49:56.927 --> 00:49:59.478
then gonna develop some skills in the short game.

00:49:59.478 --> 00:50:00.797
That'll be great.

00:50:01.427 --> 00:50:01.668
And

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Yeah.

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but I had to.

00:50:05.402 --> 00:50:07.983
Give him something else to it worked really well.

00:50:08.132 --> 00:50:08.583
And he's

00:50:08.713 --> 00:50:09.014
Yeah.

00:50:09.014 --> 00:50:09.704
That's awesome.

00:50:09.753 --> 00:50:10.893
loved, he loves it.

00:50:10.893 --> 00:50:17.762
He's like, all the people are asking me what I'm doing, and I'm like, I'm not Um, so that

00:50:17.954 --> 00:50:18.704
Tell him to listen.

00:50:18.813 --> 00:50:19.052
tune

00:50:19.123 --> 00:50:19.213
Yeah.

00:50:19.233 --> 00:50:20.132
the golf intervention.

00:50:20.132 --> 00:50:25.443
If you, if you go back in time, we do mention that was it on the Substack on that?

00:50:25.443 --> 00:50:25.682
I think

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I think so.

00:50:26.623 --> 00:50:27.704
Yeah, it was.

00:50:27.813 --> 00:50:30.092
a, if you're a subscriber to our, um.

00:50:32.342 --> 00:50:33.333
on the substack.

00:50:34.112 --> 00:50:39.003
you can have have access to that strategy episode, which was phenomenal.

00:50:39.003 --> 00:50:42.242
And we went over finger dispersions, um, which is really a

00:50:42.338 --> 00:50:43.168
which is really a

00:50:43.233 --> 00:50:50.733
aiming your on your, it's some, it's uh, guidelines handicap and what

00:50:50.954 --> 00:50:51.284
Yeah.

00:50:51.512 --> 00:50:54.572
probably is and how you would hone that in on the course.

00:50:54.572 --> 00:50:57.362
And then give you a way goal to practice towards,

00:50:57.648 --> 00:50:57.869
Yep.

00:50:58.112 --> 00:50:58.983
when you practice.

00:50:59.072 --> 00:50:59.253
So.

00:51:00.643 --> 00:51:01.757
I'm glad we brought that up.

00:51:02.538 --> 00:51:03.648
from our lessons.

00:51:04.398 --> 00:51:05.088
Pretty exciting.

00:51:05.538 --> 00:51:06.407
Pretty exciting.

00:51:07.338 --> 00:51:07.998
Well, Rob,

00:51:08.128 --> 00:51:08.659
Well, Ralph

00:51:08.777 --> 00:51:09.228
to mention

00:51:09.409 --> 00:51:11.728
mention, I don't think so.

00:51:12.224 --> 00:51:12.809
I think we hit on it.

00:51:13.307 --> 00:51:14.568
fun being and,

00:51:15.284 --> 00:51:15.373
it.

00:51:15.373 --> 00:51:15.853
is fun.

00:51:16.188 --> 00:51:17.927
I'm looking on the ground.

00:51:17.958 --> 00:51:18.648
I didn't even notice you

00:51:19.724 --> 00:51:20.114
wow.

00:51:20.204 --> 00:51:20.443
Yeah.

00:51:20.443 --> 00:51:21.583
I haven't looked out either.

00:51:21.858 --> 00:51:22.847
Yeah, they, well, there was no

00:51:23.143 --> 00:51:24.568
There was no snow when we started.

00:51:25.253 --> 00:51:26.324
No, it's covered.

00:51:26.358 --> 00:51:27.438
is, white, so.

00:51:27.793 --> 00:51:28.693
Oh my gosh,

00:51:30.978 --> 00:51:33.617
but is

00:51:33.884 --> 00:51:34.393
Karen,

00:51:34.728 --> 00:51:35.688
we're gonna call it Karen.

00:51:39.047 --> 00:51:39.378
great.

00:51:40.487 --> 00:51:42.617
or Karen, that's the names of the storm.

00:51:43.398 --> 00:51:44.268
And uh,

00:51:44.278 --> 00:51:45.358
Next one can be Todd.

00:51:45.588 --> 00:51:45.947
Todd.

00:51:46.307 --> 00:51:47.688
Yeah, we alternate.

00:51:49.304 --> 00:51:49.523
So

00:51:49.967 --> 00:51:51.077
thank you for tuning in.

00:51:51.137 --> 00:51:56.088
We'll be back at you, uh, starting a new We will decide what we're gonna start with.

00:51:56.088 --> 00:51:58.398
We haven't actually decided yet, but we will

00:51:58.528 --> 00:51:59.849
we're gonna keep you hanging on that one.

00:51:59.909 --> 00:52:00.719
You'll have to wait.

00:52:00.797 --> 00:52:02.958
on something, but we do like, the series and I like,

00:52:05.639 --> 00:52:06.943
Yeah, it's gonna be fire for sure.

00:52:07.217 --> 00:52:09.347
a format, like, gotta have a format.

00:52:09.358 --> 00:52:14.068
I like, I like the, I like the, the organization, but then like, that's where I stop.

00:52:14.068 --> 00:52:20.789
Like if I get any more organized than that, my brain just, just fries and I'm, I speak gibberish the entire time.

00:52:20.789 --> 00:52:22.829
Well, we, we learned that early on in the podcast.

00:52:23.338 --> 00:52:30.898
Like, I, I need very, just like basic like, Hey, here's what we're generally gonna talk about, and then just let me go.

00:52:31.648 --> 00:52:31.949
Uh.

00:52:32.039 --> 00:52:33.603
You talked for a right.

00:52:34.528 --> 00:52:34.858
Yeah.

00:52:34.858 --> 00:52:36.599
we don't to overthink.

00:52:36.827 --> 00:52:37.518
need to overthink it.

00:52:37.518 --> 00:52:37.668
I

00:52:38.518 --> 00:52:38.728
Yeah.

00:52:39.918 --> 00:52:45.708
because this podcast, we put a couple in my family, which I never knew.

00:52:45.797 --> 00:52:47.907
I never thought they thought this about me, but they were like.

00:52:49.443 --> 00:52:57.302
I can't believe you can get on a podcast and talk like that because you, you don't talk I guess when they come to visit or,

00:52:58.528 --> 00:53:00.119
funny story actually.

00:53:00.362 --> 00:53:01.652
I talk all day.

00:53:01.652 --> 00:53:01.922
Right.

00:53:01.922 --> 00:53:02.643
I think that's what it

00:53:03.389 --> 00:53:04.679
Yeah, yeah,

00:53:04.742 --> 00:53:07.652
teaching coaching like literally

00:53:09.304 --> 00:53:09.724
Mm-hmm.

00:53:09.813 --> 00:53:13.083
you come home you're not like, let's have a chat.

00:53:14.418 --> 00:53:14.628
And

00:53:14.699 --> 00:53:14.818
Yep.

00:53:14.927 --> 00:53:15.228
one in

00:53:15.239 --> 00:53:16.559
Nope, we are not.

00:53:16.757 --> 00:53:18.168
what I was doing at work.

00:53:18.257 --> 00:53:18.827
That is not

00:53:19.259 --> 00:53:20.219
absolutely not.

00:53:20.699 --> 00:53:21.239
No.

00:53:21.329 --> 00:53:22.304
And it does not care.

00:53:24.797 --> 00:53:28.097
to give a hoot about golf

00:53:28.528 --> 00:53:28.748
Yes.

00:53:28.938 --> 00:53:30.467
it probably works better that way.

00:53:31.038 --> 00:53:37.577
Um, and so, think it's funny you, how did you like I can't picture you talking like that'cause you don't talk.

00:53:37.577 --> 00:53:39.137
I'm like, you know, I talk all the time,

00:53:39.528 --> 00:53:39.949
Mm-hmm.

00:53:41.072 --> 00:53:41.733
Um, this is

00:53:42.018 --> 00:53:43.949
this is our inaugural

00:53:44.612 --> 00:53:45.242
2.0.

00:53:46.438 --> 00:53:46.659
Yep.

00:53:47.072 --> 00:53:47.643
with us.

00:53:48.512 --> 00:53:50.313
Tell your friends about us if you'd like to.

00:53:50.313 --> 00:53:52.052
If not, that's Keep it to yourself.

00:53:52.052 --> 00:53:52.922
We're okay with that too.

00:53:52.922 --> 00:53:55.742
As long as you feel like you're getting outta the show what you need.

00:53:56.612 --> 00:54:00.123
since it's free, you're getting what you pay for at least.

00:54:03.302 --> 00:54:05.913
Maybe you'll, it'll bring you a little bit of listening.

00:54:05.913 --> 00:54:06.572
Pleasure.

00:54:07.277 --> 00:54:12.108
In the next few days, if you're stuck at home, which I feel like I will probably be here in Central Virginia.

00:54:12.108 --> 00:54:12.438
So

00:54:13.574 --> 00:54:14.023
Yeah,

00:54:14.088 --> 00:54:14.208
for

00:54:14.384 --> 00:54:14.893
rip.

00:54:15.498 --> 00:54:16.577
us out next time.

00:54:16.577 --> 00:54:24.137
If you, if you're so rate and review us with that five star rating on Apple and Spotify.

00:54:24.137 --> 00:54:30.228
We have a perfect five star rating on both, which again is super Um, that.

00:54:30.838 --> 00:54:33.748
How many, how many one star ratings did you have to go and delete?

00:54:34.068 --> 00:54:34.788
Well, you can't,

00:54:35.009 --> 00:54:35.878
Two star delete.

00:54:36.958 --> 00:54:37.289
Oh,

00:54:38.597 --> 00:54:45.108
So when I was looking up at there's some different ways that they your show.

00:54:46.128 --> 00:54:50.327
um, for the amount of listeners that we have, we have like a lot of ratings I guess like

00:54:50.568 --> 00:54:50.858
Yeah.

00:54:52.307 --> 00:54:52.728
um,

00:54:52.759 --> 00:54:53.298
And uh,

00:54:53.927 --> 00:54:54.467
you know,'cause

00:54:54.679 --> 00:54:55.018
you know,

00:54:55.338 --> 00:54:56.148
typically do it.

00:54:56.447 --> 00:54:58.217
Like, I was was like, I

00:54:58.239 --> 00:54:58.739
one day I,

00:55:00.032 --> 00:55:00.992
I love podcasts.

00:55:00.992 --> 00:55:02.043
I don't listen to tons.

00:55:02.047 --> 00:55:05.253
I, I have a to listen to and I went in and rated'em all one day.

00:55:05.282 --> 00:55:08.463
'cause I was like, you know what, it'll take me two minutes to do that.

00:55:08.463 --> 00:55:09.543
And it does help them,

00:55:09.608 --> 00:55:10.429
it helps'em out.

00:55:10.429 --> 00:55:11.108
Yeah, for sure.

00:55:11.552 --> 00:55:20.373
or whatnot, which we don't care about algorithms here, but you're so obliged and you're bored and you wanna rate all your favorite shows, five stars, you could go on and take just a minute.

00:55:20.733 --> 00:55:23.163
You could do that on our website, the golf intervention.

00:55:23.987 --> 00:55:24.557
Dot com.

00:55:24.858 --> 00:55:26.088
You can actually rate the show there.

00:55:26.088 --> 00:55:32.057
Just click through to all the different if you'd like to, and you can learn more about Rob and I with our bios on there.

00:55:32.447 --> 00:55:33.197
But otherwise,

00:55:33.313 --> 00:55:34.393
But otherwise we're glad

00:55:35.387 --> 00:55:42.168
and, uh, we hope that you have a great day and week if you're in a place that you can, and we will

00:55:42.284 --> 00:55:42.463
Yep.

00:55:42.498 --> 00:55:45.228
next time on the Golf Intervention Podcast.

00:55:46.679 --> 00:55:47.099
Cheers.

00:55:51.764 --> 00:55:51.884
I.